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Popcorn; Is it bad for you?
Topic Started: Sep 1 2011, 03:57 PM (874 Views)
ilm
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We have been pigging out on popcorn. Lots of it. The kind you put in the microwave - unsalted. Sometimes I put margarine on it - yum.

Someone told me popcorn is bad for the Intestine. Is that true?
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From Discovery Health -- a quick Google search....

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Popcorn is one of the world's most popular confections, frequently enjoyed in ballparks, movie theaters and at home. Popcorn makers sell three billion bags of microwave popcorn every year [source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer]. However, some doctors and consumer groups have been concerned that a chemical used to give microwave popcorn its tasty butter flavor may pose a serious health hazard.

The chemical is called diacetyl, and it's used in the production of microwave popcorn, but it has also likely led to scores of factory workers developing a severe lung condition. Diacetyl occurs naturally in some foods, including butter and many dairy products, fruits, wine and beer. It's reportedly used in "thousands" of food products to add or increase butter flavoring [source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer].

Hundreds of factory workers have developed a condition called "popcorn lung," also known by the medical name bronchiolitis obliterans. The condition is caused by inhalation of diacetyl fumes, which cause scarring in the lungs. Sufferers of popcorn lung have difficulty exhaling, and when severe, the condition can be fatal. In many cases of severe bronchiolitis obliterans, only a lung transplant will save a patient's life. Some former popcorn factory workers died while waiting for transplants.

In September 2007, the murmurs of concern surrounding microwave popcorn became louder as some began to wonder whether consumers were in danger as well. The publicity, caused in part by a suspected case of popcorn lung in a consumer, led four major popcorn makers to announce that they planned to drop diacetyl. The companies -- Weaver Popcorn Co., ConAgra Foods Inc., American Popcorn Company and General Mills Inc. -- had, as of early September, phased out use of the chemical or claimed they would within a year. The companies differed in their reasons for dropping the chemical, but some cited consumer concerns or issues of worker health.

In 2003 and 2004, federal health officials looked into the cases of several hundred sick workers at popcorn manufacturing plants. Those workers were diagnosed with popcorn lung, likely caused by inhalation of diacetyl fumes. The owner of a popcorn company in Montana died from complications believed to be related to ingredients in popcorn flavoring [source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer]. It's not only hundreds of popcorn factory workers -- workers in candy and potato chip factories have gotten sick as well, as have at least 20 more workers who manufactured products with diacetyl [source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer]. More than $20 million in damages have been paid out as a result of lawsuits filed by factory workers harmed by diacetyl, and as previously mentioned, some workers have died [source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer].

The sick workers in popcorn and candy factories were exposed to large quantities of diacetyl fumes on a daily basis, but could consumers be at risk? On the next page, we'll look at what's believed to be the first case of a popcorn lover suffering from bronchiolitis obliterans.
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kenny
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I think the popcorn itself is healthy.
It's all the crap they put in the "microwavable" products. :dead:

I buy mine in 50-lb bags (intended for movie theaters) for probably 1/100th of what you pay and air pop it so no crap goes on it.
The ingredients list on the bag has ONE ingredient, corn.

Then I sprinkle on some extra virgin olive oil, garlic powder and a good paprika.
Deeeeeeelicious!

The microwave popcorn in those ready-made convenient bags are death.
Read the label. :dead:
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And margarine is trans fat, no?

Really, if you love a snack food, you shouldn't ask yourself if it's good for you. ; )
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kenny
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I think I'll air pop some now. . .
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ilikemozart
Sep 1 2011, 03:57 PM
We have been pigging out on popcorn. Lots of it. The kind you put in the microwave - unsalted. Sometimes I put margarine on it - yum.

Someone told me popcorn is bad for the Intestine. Is that true?
Only if you occasionally suffer from diverticulitis.
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Sep 1 2011, 04:06 PM
Only if you occasionally suffer from diverticulitis.
:yes:

That and nuts. Bad things if you have diverticulitis.
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Wow, RosemaryTwo, pretty scary.

We have been buying the Whole Foods 365 brand. The ingredient is just organic popcorn. No butters or salts.

Yesterday, I bought some organic popcorn you pop yourself , and I put it over the stove with canola oil and did the old-fashioned way of cooking it.

Kenny, your popcorn recipe sounds wonderful. Where do you buy your 50 lb bags?

I guess the bag itself for microwavable popcorn is probably bad for consumers too?
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Sep 1 2011, 04:11 PM
Wow, RosemaryTwo, pretty scary.

We have been buying the Whole Foods 365 brand. The ingredient is just organic popcorn. No butters or salts.

Yesterday, I bought some organic popcorn you pop yourself , and I put it over the stove with canola oil and did the old-fashioned way of cooking it.

Kenny, your popcorn recipe sounds wonderful. Where do you buy your 50 lb bags?

I guess the bag itself for microwavable popcorn is probably bad for consumers too?
Alas and alack, I used to also buy my popcorn in 50lb bags. You can give half of it away, and still have dirt-cheap popcorn, as compared to grocery store prices.

Where to buy? I used to get mine at Sam's. I'm sure a lot of the warehouse stores will have it, along with any restaurant/fountain supply business.
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Sep 1 2011, 04:10 PM
Jolly
Sep 1 2011, 04:06 PM
Only if you occasionally suffer from diverticulitis.
:yes:

That and nuts. Bad things if you have diverticulitis.
Speak sooth, oh Medicine Man.

Mr. Peanut almost put me in the hospital a few weeks ago....sadly, mixed nuts and popcorn are two of my favorite vices.
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ilikemozart
Sep 1 2011, 04:11 PM
Wow, RosemaryTwo, pretty scary.
Not intended to say that microwave popcorn is safe...

The fact that workers may have developed lung problems while manufacturing the food does not mean that the food is unsafe to eat. Yeah, it may be unsafe and unhealthy, but you can't make that conclusion based on workers who process the food developing respiratory illnesses.

The reaction to what you breathe and to what you eat can be very different. The plight of workers in grain silos developing lung problems does not mean we should not eat bread or other grains.
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ilikemozart
Sep 1 2011, 04:11 PM
Kenny, your popcorn recipe sounds wonderful.
Where do you buy your 50 lb bags?
http://www.smartandfinal.com/Homepage.aspx

I have no idea if Smart and Final has stores near you.
IIRC it was $16 for 50 pounds.
The bag had about 7 gallons of corn.
1/2 cup of unpopped corn makes one large serving.

So the corn costs me 7 cents per serving, and that's with no added poison! :thumb:
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Corn is pretty high on the glycemic index.

It spikes your blood sugar levels at about 70-85% the rate of pure glucose.
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Does Costco sell bulk popcorn? I'm amazed at the prices at the supermarkets for such small containers.

I pop mine in oil, with a little salt. :hearts:
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I must be all right then, because I make mine the old-fashioned way - 2 tablespoons of peanut oil and 1/2 cup of white corn, popped in a saucepan. I add salt, but not much. I love popcorn - I eat it for dinner when Improv is at the bay and I'm home alone. :whome: :popcorn:
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I LOVE popcorn with red grape juice or red wine.
Perfect for a Netflix night!
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Kenny. I assume you cook yours in the virgin olive oil?
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kenny
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No.
I air pop the corn into a paper bag.
Air Popping uses no oil - just hot air.

After popping I sprinkle some herbs in and the EVOO while shaking the bag vigorously.

Instead of dirtying a bowl I just tear of the top of the paper bag down to where the popcorn is.
That's my bowl.
Then I eat by sticking my face in it; the popcorn kernals stick to my tongue.
Look Mom! No greasy hands. (not good for sharing though, but Jose doesn't like popcorn)

Works pretty well.
There, now you know much more than you ever wanted to about how Kenny eats popcorn.

I do not think olive oil would be a good choice for popping corn since it smokes at low temp and really looses much flavor when heated up high.
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More popaganda from Kenny.

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I have this air popper.
I like better than the last one. :mad2: DAMN! That fracking thing pissed me off!

But, once in a while the throat of this new one gets clogged during use.
It stops barfing up the popped corn so it starts to burn.
I'll shake the whole machine to loosen up the impacted kernals but sometimes that whole big yellow thingie on the top falls off.
Burning popcorn goes shooting around the kitchen . . . to the delight of Kizzy an Yaya, our hairy little garbage disposals.
Oh the Drama! :doh:

I thought I fixed this by supergluing the lid to the body.
Superglue failed after one use.
Next I 2-Part Epoxied it and so far so good. :thumb:

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How do you clean the lid?
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Sep 1 2011, 07:18 PM
How do you clean the lid?
I never need to clean it since no oil is used in an air popper.
Popcorn itself does not leave any residue.

In fact I think putting oil into an air popper would cause a fire.
The oil would pour directly onto the heating coils.
The machine is like a cheapo vertical hair dryer at the bottom of a shaft.

I guess I could wipe it with a sponge if that was ever needed.

BTW, I was careful to only epoxy it on the outside, where the hot popcorn does not touch.
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Kenny, glad to see you finally got a new air popper. :thumb:
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Thank you MS.
You recall my consternation? (This is a pop quiz.)
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I love popcorn in every way -- air, pan, kettle, microwave, movie theater. Salt, butter, sweet. Bowls, bags, buckets, balls.

I usually make popcorn balls for Halloween, for myself. The kids get packaged candy.
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kenny
Sep 1 2011, 07:33 PM
Thank you MS.
You recall my consternation?
Oh, yes, its tantrums of knocking itself over and spilling its popcorn goodness.
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