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| Boehner failed. Now what? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 29 2011, 03:29 AM (336 Views) | |
| jon-nyc | Jul 29 2011, 03:29 AM Post #1 |
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Cheers
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h/t Quirt.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...gI_blog.html?hpid=z1 |
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| Axtremus | Jul 29 2011, 03:37 AM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Cue the latest Boehner episode-inspired spoof of Hitler's rant from "The Downfall" with the last line's caption reads: Harry Ried is now our only hope. |
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| apple | Jul 29 2011, 04:34 AM Post #3 |
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one of the angels
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you think he'd figure out by now that his 'stubborness' is going to cost him big time. |
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| Mikhailoh | Jul 29 2011, 05:07 AM Post #4 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Yes he should. The president should be more willing to compromise, especially since elections have consequences. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| apple | Jul 29 2011, 05:09 AM Post #5 |
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one of the angels
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hello? don't you believe the president is excellent in negotiation? |
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| Mikhailoh | Jul 29 2011, 05:14 AM Post #6 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Sure. So is the Easter Bunny. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Axtremus | Jul 29 2011, 06:00 AM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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The President has. In the context of "raising the debt ceiling," the President has gone from "clean bill to raise the debt ceiling" to "tying the debt ceiling to deficit reduction cuts and revenue" to "$3 of spending cuts for every $1 of incremental revenue" to "$6 of spending cuts for every $1 of incremental revenue" to the latest Harry Reid proposal "all spening cuts, no new revenue." If you do not recognize that to be "compromise," you do not know what "compromise" is. |
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| Mikhailoh | Jul 29 2011, 06:20 AM Post #8 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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In other words they have no real interest in fiscal responsibility, just in positioning for the 2012 election. They will throw the baby out with the bathwater so that Obama doesn't have to address real spending cuts this term. You do not know what leadership is. Nor do they. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Axtremus | Jul 29 2011, 06:32 AM Post #9 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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HELLO!!! The President's original "grand bargain" with $3 Trillion in cuts (and $1 Trillion in revenue) was addressing real spending cuts. Harry Reid's latest plan, one endorsed by Obama and Pelosi, contains $2.2 Trillion in cuts as scored by the CBO (compared the Beohner plan's $850 Billion in cuts in cuts as scored by the CBO). That is addressing real spending cut, more so than the Boehner's latest offering. What's this accusation about "positioning for the 2012 election"? You talking about the GOPers, Tea Partiers, the President, who? Which of their positions you specifically see as "positioning for the 2012 election"? |
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| RosemaryTwo | Jul 29 2011, 06:54 AM Post #10 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I have no idea what to expect. I have to think that it's a complicated rubric behind-the-scenes and the media is only scratching the surface. I find it all very suspenseful, though. I enjoy listening to all the viewpoints and debate. |
| "Perhaps the thing to do is just to let stupid run its course." Aqua | |
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| Jolly | Jul 29 2011, 07:14 PM Post #11 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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If Reid's bill is so smokin' hot, why has he rebuffed McConnel's call to bring it to the Senate floor? Twice? And just to set the record straight, $1T of Reid's cuts come out of military spending. He essentially extrapolates current spending in Afghanistan and Iraq for ten years and cuts it all out of the budget. That's a no-go in the House. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Larry | Jul 29 2011, 07:48 PM Post #12 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! |
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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| Larry | Jul 29 2011, 07:56 PM Post #13 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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My God - you leftwing booger eaters are truly stuck on stupid. There is NO SPENDING REDUCTIONS IN ANY OF THESE "PLANS". Not even in Boehner's. Let's use some simple math. Here is a spending cut. Last year you spend a hundred dollars. This year you are going to only spend 80 dollars. THAT is a spending cut. This is NOT a spending cut. Last year you spent 100 dollars. Your plan is to increase that by ten dollars a year for the next ten years. Your wife tells you you can't afford that, so you finally agree to only increase your spending by 8 dollars a year for the next ten years, and then you run out claiming you've cut your budget and reduced your spending. What will happen next? No idea. The democrats are determined to destroy the country. But what SHOULD come next is a flat out revolution, and the entire democrat party be thrown in jail. |
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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| Axtremus | Jul 30 2011, 07:05 AM Post #14 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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That's why I don't quite Reid's claim or Boehner's claim. I quote CBO's scoring, where the same accounting standard is used for both proposals. Regardless of whether Larry (refer to his post above) recognize any plan as having "spending cut," ... ... bottom line is still the same, Reid's plan spends less than Boehner's plan. |
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| Larry | Jul 30 2011, 08:49 AM Post #15 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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No it doesn't. It uses expenses that would be dropping off the budget anyway, and calls them cuts. Reid isn't cutting a damned thing, and if you actually believe he is, you need help. |
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