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Does anyone here have children?
Topic Started: May 29 2011, 07:56 AM (475 Views)
kenny
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Then please watch this.
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George K
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When I worked at the University, one of our faculty members lost his wife to malignant melanoma.
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kenny
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Friends don't let friends tan.

That "healthy glow" is deadly.
A tan is a huge ugly scab.
Tell a friend.

The only thing more astonishing to me than the continued popularity of tanning (and don't even get me started on the ethics of tanning businesses) is that people still smoke after all we now know.
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Rachel is and always has been a sun-o-phobe. Her influence on the boy should be pretty useful.

In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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kenny
May 29 2011, 08:24 AM
The only thing more astonishing to me than the continued popularity of tanning (and don't even get me started on the ethics of tanning businesses) is that people still smoke after all we now know.
I found giving up the sun-bed a lot easier than giving up smoking.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Unless you resign yourself to living the hours of a vampire, a pretty healthy tan is just part of living down here.

A certain percentage of melanoma is just par for the course, even with sunscreen, etc...
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May 29 2011, 08:46 AM
Unless you resign yourself to living the hours of a vampire, a pretty healthy tan is just part of living down here.

A certain percentage of melanoma is just par for the course, even with sunscreen, etc...

Yup, 3 times the doctor has told me I had skin cancer. I assume other doctors will tell me worse.

My message to 16 year old me. Live your life. Don't go around moaning about being a victim.

If you want to pass along some advice, fine, no need to beat anyone over the head. A word to the wise is sufficient.
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I´m guilty -- I´ve been way too lax the past 5-10 years about tanning.

I never go tanning for tanning´s sake, but I am outside so much doing whatever else that it´s just the same really. I put on sunscreen if I would be in direct sun for a while, but otherwise would just say, my skin tans well instead of burns, I´ll be fine.

OMG. You CANNOT do that here. So freaking close to the equator, the sun is so strong, even in winter. Summer you avoid sunlight like the plague. And now in winter, that the sun sometimes feels good, I am even a bit more cautious. I have taken way too many "just a quick 10 minute walk" in the past year. My chest, my face, my shoulders -- if I keep it up, I will age my skin 10 years before I´ve finished my time here. I do sunscreen and face moisturizer religiously now.
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I got a terrible sunburn over my entire torso when I was 16. Kept me awake for an entire week, couldn't sleep at all.
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I think it's all blown our of proportion like most things.

A 30 - 60 minute daily sun exposure 3 to 5 days a week is actually good for you.
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In younger days a lot of beach time kept me very, very dark. I just tan naturally quickly. When I saw the first signs of sun damage I stopped.

I don't think that's what will get me, but I don't want to look all leathery.
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kenny
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I wish my parents erred on the side of caution 40 years ago - but back then nobody had connected the dots yet.

Mik, you don't see the damage till decades later.

I respect diversity.
Parents have a right to put their kids at risk ignoring medical info and have faith that there is no risk.
We should abolish car seat and seat belt laws for children too and let the parents decide.
Parents get to do whatever they want because they instinctively know best. :doh:

Those liberals just want to control everyone. :tsktsk:
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kenny
May 29 2011, 11:52 AM

I respect diversity.

OK, but you also hate it and rant and rave against it.
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Mark
May 29 2011, 10:02 AM
I think it's all blown our of proportion like most things.

A 30 - 60 minute daily sun exposure 3 to 5 days a week is actually good for you.
:uparrow:

I got burned a couple of times as a kid. Real burned. Body blisters, it was that bad. If I knew then what I know now, I'd change absolutely nothing whatsoever*.

I was lucky as a kid. I was allowed to play in the dirt, to ride my bike out onto the street, to wait at the bus stop with my friends unchaperoned, to make forts, skin my knees up, fall out of trees and break the occasional bone doing something stupid.

Everything in moderation.

Especially parenting.

*That said, these days I take the proper precautions, given where I am and my history.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Aqua Letifer
May 30 2011, 07:47 AM
Mark
May 29 2011, 10:02 AM
I think it's all blown our of proportion like most things.

A 30 - 60 minute daily sun exposure 3 to 5 days a week is actually good for you.
:uparrow:

I got burned a couple of times as a kid. Real burned. Body blisters, it was that bad. If I knew then what I know now, I'd change absolutely nothing whatsoever*.

I was lucky as a kid. I was allowed to play in the dirt, to ride my bike out onto the street, to wait at the bus stop with my friends unchaperoned, to make forts, skin my knees up, fall out of trees and break the occasional bone doing something stupid.

Everything in moderation.

Especially parenting.

*That said, these days I take the proper precautions, given where I am and my history.
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kenny
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Wow, I'm impressed.
We have macho men here who are stronger and smarter than cancer! :thumb:
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kenny
May 30 2011, 08:04 AM
Wow, I'm impressed.
We have macho men here who are stronger and smarter than cancer! :thumb:
Speaking of smart.

How old are you, kenny? Are you aware that melanoma and skin cancer have been around for some years prior to you watching this YouTube video? Did you know this medical condition and the dangers of sun over-exposure aren't news to anyone?
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Mark
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No, it's a fact that moderate sun exposure is good for you.

I never got so burned as a child to warrant any concern. I see a dermatologist every 18 months or so.

I never deep tanned in my life and I don't now. But I do get sun exposure and I am not concerned at all about the level of exposure I receive.
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Mark
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and...

People have tanned (deep tanned ) their entire lives and don't get skin cancer.

You either get it or you don't. The sun can be a trigger for those predisposed to get skin cancer. But you can also develop skin cancer even if you wear a burka you entire life.
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WTF dp ypu expect, Kenny? Kids to live in underground bunkers?
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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The purpose of life is to live it not simply to extend it as long as possible.
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ok, a bit over the top on the emotions.

but its a really bad disease. really bad. and freaky. behaves very differently from other cancers.

other cancers are...well to some degree predictable. u can see how things are proceeding more or less.

melanoma is the most unpredictable disease imaginable. it can sit like a time bomb in microscopic form for years, tens of years, and "wake up" and spread like a brush fire in a dry field. lightning fast.

it can be caught at an early stage, and 4 months later u r dead.

it can rage and all of a sudden, without warning, turn off and even regress. as if the immune system recognizes it as foreign, something that doesnt happen with other cancers.

we dont know why.

although they are in the skin, melanocytes start off their career in the body in the fetal neural crest, and have an ability to metastasize to any tissue in the body. anywhere. from eyeballs to anus.

very weird. and scary.

i operate on metastatic melanomas about once a week.
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Mikhailoh
May 30 2011, 08:48 AM
The purpose of life is to live it not simply to extend it as long as possible.
The purpose of life is to end.
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