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If the rapture really happens tomorrow . . .; AKA . . . the Good Bye Thread
Topic Started: May 20 2011, 01:21 PM (12,131 Views)
kenny
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Hey, it's not that important. :shrug:
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Where in the Bible is the rapture described?

Revelation?
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kenny
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Mark
May 20 2011, 04:28 PM
Where in the Bible is the rapture described?

Revelation?
Thinking of getting a last-mintue ticket?
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Mark
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LOL!.

I don't subscribe to the "rapture" theory.

Not sure if that makes me a bad Catholic or not. :whome:

IT? Am I a bad Catholic?
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kenny
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You should be PMing God.
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Nothing that a sacrament of penance and the recitation of a few novenas acts of contrition can't cure absolve.
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apple
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take me off your list please. that is groupism.
it behooves me to behold
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kenny
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Okay.

Either we all get raptured, or none of us do. :thumb:
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May 20 2011, 01:37 PM
I'm a born again Heathen, and I plan on riding this horse straight into Hell. :devilgrin:
Frank, you, me, and TNCR heathens will be havin' a party. I'll find my voice at last!

...Toe to toe
Dancing very close
Barely breathing
Almost comatose
Wall to wall
People hypnotized
And they're stepping lightly
Hang each night in Rapture

Back to back
Sacroiliac
Spineless movement
And a wild attack

Face to face
Sadly solitude
And it's finger popping
Twenty-four hour shopping in Rapture

Fab Five Freddie told me everybody's high
DJ's spinnin' are savin' my mind
Flash is fast, Flash is cool
Francois sez fas, Flashe' no do
And you don't stop, sure shot
Go out to the parking lot
And you get in your car and you drive real far
And you drive all night and then you see a light
And it comes right down and lands on the ground
And out comes a man from Mars
And you try to run but he's got a gun
And he shoots you dead and he eats your head
And then you're in the man from Mars
You go out at night, eatin' cars
You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too
Mercurys and Subarus
And you don't stop, you keep on eatin' cars
Then, when there's no more cars
You go out at night and eat up bars where the people meet
Face to face, dance cheek to cheek
One to one, man to man
Dance toe to toe
Don't move to slow, 'cause the man from Mars
Is through with cars, he's eatin' bars
Yeah, wall to wall, door to door, hall to hall
He's gonna eat 'em all
Rapture, be pure
Take a tour, through the sewer
Don't strain your brain, paint a train
You'll be singin' in the rain
I said don't stop, to punk rock

Well now you see what you wanna be
Just have your party on TV
'Cause the man from Mars won't eat up bars when the TV's on
And now he's gone back up to space
Where he won't have a hassle with the human race
And you hip-hop, and you don't stop
Just blast off, sure shot
'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars and eatin' bars
And now he only eats guitars, get up!


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As of Thursday over 268,000 people signed on to a Facebook group "Post rapture looting."


I'm one of them. So is one of my former fellow chaplain interns, and my Care of Souls professor.
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May 20 2011, 03:21 PM
Thanks a lot. I'm not on a single list.......
Well, you made my list:

Larry
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kenny
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May 20 2011, 07:55 PM
Larry
May 20 2011, 03:21 PM
Thanks a lot. I'm not on a single list.......
Well, you made my list:

Larry
KathyK


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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
Mark
May 20 2011, 04:36 PM
LOL!.

I don't subscribe to the "rapture" theory.

Not sure if that makes me a bad Catholic or not. :whome:

IT? Am I a bad Catholic?
rapture is a 19th century protestant heresy innovation.

The dogma lives loudly within me.
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Whew! ;)
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kenny
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What else might be made up and agreed with?

Hmm . . . :leaving: :leaving: :leaving:
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Cheers
garrett2
May 20 2011, 07:55 PM
Larry
May 20 2011, 03:21 PM
Thanks a lot. I'm not on a single list.......
Well, you made my list:

Larry
KathyK


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thats hilarious.
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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kenny
May 20 2011, 01:32 PM
I think Dol and Sue will be taken since Jesus surely couldn't be so petty about club memberships.
Oh hell no. I'm stickin' around for the down low party. Thought I'd better check in and say hi/bye before we all go tits up tomorrow. Or, I'll talk to you all later, eh. Love you guys.
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ivorythumper
May 20 2011, 08:00 PM
rapture is a 19th century protestant heresy innovation.

That is certainly one of many views on the subject, unfortunately, it is incorrect. The *word* "rapture" is not found in scripture. The *concept* however, IS.

1 Thessalonians 4:17: "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Thessalonians was written in Greek. The Greek word "Harpazo" translates into "caught up". It is a verb. When the original Greek was translated into Latin (I believe that was you Catholics who did that, eh? ;) ) "Harpazo" is translated into "rapturo", again meaning "caught up" - to "snatch, or take away". Other places in scripture where the word "harpazo" is used is in Acts where Phillip is "harpazo" (caught up) and taken to Caesarea, and in 2 Corinthians where Paul describes being "caught up" to the 3rd heaven. There is no question that the verse in Thessalonians is saying that humans will be "snatched" - "caught up" - an actual removal of humans from earth.

So while the word "rapture" doesn't appear in the Bible, the event described by the use of the word "harpazo" and translated by the Catholic Church into "rapturo" certainly DOES appear in the Bible, and is not a 19th century "innovation", but is scriptural.

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kenny
May 20 2011, 08:05 PM
What else might be made up and agreed with?

Hmm . . . :leaving: :leaving: :leaving:
lots of possibilities there, oh IUD hatted one. Bit confusing, that avatar.
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kenny
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Larry do you believe tomorrow's the day of the rapture?
Do you wonder at all, or consider the possibility, or dismiss it outright?

I won't laugh.

Billions believe nuttier stuff, like a virgin having a baby. :doh:
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There is no question that the verse in Thessalonians is saying that humans will be "snatched" - "caught up" - an actual removal of humans from earth.


Scripture shows 3 components to the concept of being "caught up".

The return of Christ:
"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout. . ." (1 Thess. 4:16). "If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you to myself" (John 14:3)

The resurrection of dead believers:
"The dead in Christ shall rise first" (1 Thess. 4:16). "The dead will be raised imperishable" (1 Cor. 15:52).

What happens to the living believers:
"Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up" (1 Thess. 4:17).

A reunion between the dead believers and those who are alive at the time of this event:
"We. . . shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord" (1 Thess. 4:17). "I will come. . . that where I am, there you may be also" (John 14:3).

How both will change:
"We shall be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality" (1 Cor. 15:52-53). "We eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory" (Philippians 3:20-21).

The speed in which this even will happen:
"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye" (1 Cor. 15:52).


So there it all is laid out in front of you, straight from scripture - all the components of the "rapture", this "protestant heresy" that, while fully scriptural, is unfortunately described using a word used by the Catholic church - "rapturo".

So whether one subscribes to an event known as the rapture or not, the fact remains that scripture says that Jesus Christ will return suddenly and without warning, and with a shout the dead in Christ will rise and be "caught up to be with Jesus Christ, and then those who are alive will be instantly "caught up" to join them, all in a new, eternal body.

That is what is called the "rapture", unless you are of the opinion that the New Testament was written in the 1800s, then the "rapture" is completely scriptural.

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kenny
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Larry, is thread gonna be yet another 3-Way Pissing Contest for Christ?

I hope he DOES take all you knobheads tomorrow. :wave:
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kenny
May 20 2011, 09:11 PM
Larry do you believe tomorrow's the day of the rapture?
Do you wonder at all, or consider the possibility, or dismiss it outright?

I won't laugh.

Billions believe nuttier stuff, like a virgin having a baby. :doh:
Kenny, I believe the Bible to be divinely inspired. I believe that God exists, and it was God who inspired the writing of scripture. I have just shown you the scripture that describes the events some refer to as the "rapture", so yes, I believe there will be a day when these things happen.

Whether is will be tomorrow or not, I have no idea.

As for the "nuttier stuff" like a virgin having a baby, if you consider that to be "nutty", I suggest you spend some time studying the culture of that era, read the words of prophets who lived a thousand years before who described it, and spend some time learning just how mathematically impossible it would be for the events of two thousand years to all come together so perfectly just do end up describing a "silly hoax".

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kenny
May 20 2011, 09:20 PM
Larry, is thread gonna be yet another 3-Way Pissing Contest for Christ?

I hope he DOES take all you knobheads tomorrow. :wave:
Kenny, I readily admit to being a heathen. I have no moral footing for "preaching" at anyone. I am fully aware that God probably will have to dip me in some sort of disinfectant at some point..

But:

Have you ever read the descriptions the prophets who lived a thousand years before Christ gave of the coming Messiah? Jesus Christ is described in such minute detail in the old testament that there is only one human to ever live who could even come close to being the one they were describing. His birth, his life, his death, and his resurrection from death all described like an eyewitness account - more than a thousand years before he was born. I would have to be a fool to NOT believe it, no offense.


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