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| Obama's long-form birth certificate released | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 27 2011, 05:39 AM (1,170 Views) | |
| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2011, 08:16 AM Post #26 |
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Yeah it was, glad you took it in good humor.
Of course not. |
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| George K | Apr 27 2011, 08:23 AM Post #27 |
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Best comment on why he waited: “Now that Obama has released his birth certificate, it’s clear why he waited: there was no immaculate conception!” |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2011, 08:25 AM Post #28 |
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![]() Again, we must remember he didn't wait. He released it in 2008. In a way its a shame he caved to the conspiracy theorists. I think Trump is correct in taking credit for that. |
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| George K | Apr 27 2011, 08:28 AM Post #29 |
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No, he released something different in 2008 - the COLB. It had no signatures on it, iirc. This is supposedly the real deal. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| George K | Apr 27 2011, 08:29 AM Post #30 |
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Another good comment: "Great news! Joe Biden is NOT the real president!"
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2011, 08:29 AM Post #31 |
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Oh Jesus, now you birthers are claiming Iron Eyes wasn't born in the US? Who's next? Mr. Rogers?
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| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2011, 08:33 AM Post #32 |
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"In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. The state sent the campaign the President’s birth certificate, the same legal documentation provided to all Hawaiians as proof of birth in state, and the campaign immediately posted it on the internet. That birth certificate can be seen here (PDF). When any citizen born in Hawaii requests their birth certificate, they receive exactly what the President received. In fact, the document posted on the campaign website is what Hawaiians use to get a driver’s license from the state and the document recognized by the Federal Government and the courts for all legal purposes. That’s because it is the birth certificate. This is not and should not be an open question." So George, are you in Krauthammer's corner or Michelle Bachmann's? You were pretty silent on this.
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| The 89th Key | Apr 27 2011, 08:37 AM Post #33 |
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Jon - people wanted to see the original birth certificate, with signatures |
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| George K | Apr 27 2011, 08:37 AM Post #34 |
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Remind me what Michelle Bachmann said about it? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2011, 08:48 AM Post #35 |
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Ahh, you're dancing. I would have hoped you were solidly in Krauthammers corner. |
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| George K | Apr 27 2011, 08:53 AM Post #36 |
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No, I'm not dancing at all. The last time I saw Bachmann address the issue (about a week ago) she said she had no doubts about Obama being eligible. Isn't that what Kraut says? How's it different? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2011, 08:54 AM Post #37 |
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She hedged and danced (check out her verb tenses in that interview last week). |
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| JBryan | Apr 27 2011, 08:55 AM Post #38 |
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I am the grey one
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Maybe it's your verb tenses, George. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| George K | Apr 27 2011, 08:57 AM Post #39 |
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A quick Google seems pretty unambiguous:
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2011, 08:58 AM Post #40 |
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To expand on that - Bachmann was plainly walking a line - try not to scare donors and the respectable wing of her party by openly advocating the conspiracy theory, while at the same time not alienating the tin-hat crowd which she realizes is much of her base. Krauthammer and his ilk attempted no such triangulation - they called a spade a spade. |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2011, 08:59 AM Post #41 |
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I meant what I said. |
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| George K | Apr 27 2011, 09:02 AM Post #42 |
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Can you link that? Seriously, I didn't hear her say much about it, and didn't read any of her interviews. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2011, 09:02 AM Post #43 |
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Dancing. |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2011, 09:05 AM Post #44 |
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Here we are discussing it at the time: http://well-temperedforum.groupee.net/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9130004433/m/2131017116?r=2131017116#2131017116 |
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| George K | Apr 27 2011, 09:05 AM Post #45 |
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You sound pretty conspiratorial in that analysis.
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2011, 09:08 AM Post #46 |
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Cheers
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| Kincaid | Apr 27 2011, 09:11 AM Post #47 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I took it that Bachmann actually didn't understand the difference between the COLB and the BC just released today. I've not heard any conspiracy types today, so just figure this issue was polling and trending negative for Obama so he decided he had to be done toying with the birther crowd. I also agree with Jon that this won't stop the true believers. Now maybe it will knock out perhaps 40-60% of them, but the remainder will retrench and figure the conspiracy is higher up, deeper down and more sophisticated than ever. Finally, as there isn't anything untoward on the BC, it does appear that he was fighting this all along as long as it helped marginalize Republicans. He wasn't trying to hide anything. I'd love to know if he crafted that course way back when or if it was an adviser telling him how he could use the controversy to his advantage. |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| Axtremus | Apr 27 2011, 09:33 AM Post #48 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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(hat tip OperaTenor)
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| ivorythumper | Apr 27 2011, 09:54 AM Post #49 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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How's that dancing? She can only speak for herself and her circle of influence. No intelligent person would make a declarative statement in those circumstance, regardless of Stephanopoulos' prodding . Edited by ivorythumper, Apr 27 2011, 09:54 AM.
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| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2011, 09:57 AM Post #50 |
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Actually, the intelligent people in the GOP declared it over when the certificate was produced in 2008 and verified by state authorities. Krauthammer and Will don't dance this way, because they aren't worried about placating nutters. |
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