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New computer!!
Topic Started: Apr 15 2011, 07:44 AM (610 Views)
Mikhailoh
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
Jeez. And all I'm going to buy is a fairly low end laptop. I guess my needs are simple. Besides - we already have a Macbook.

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Aqua Letifer
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Mik this is neither here nor there but why in the HELL are you up so early on the weekend?
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Mikhailoh
Apr 16 2011, 03:24 AM
And all I'm going to buy is a fairly low end laptop. I guess my needs are simple.
It's alright, Mik ...
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Mikhailoh
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Are u kidding? I slept in until almost 7. Always been an early riser.
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Aqua Letifer
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I woke up at the crack of noon today and legitimately felt like I was getting a jump on things.
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Mikhailoh
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Never have done that. I'm a 7 or 8 hour a night sleeper, preferably 8. About twice year I'll sleep 10 or more.
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8:18 here, and I've been up for well over an hour already. Oh, it's awful! Why?
We're all mad here!
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Aqua Letifer
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Oh me too, and these days I get closer to six. (Passed out 'round 4 am yesterday/this morning, depending on how you figure). I just don't like daytime as much.
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PhJ
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I loved Portal !
Quite enjoying Mirror's edge right now (9,99€ on steam)
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Mikhailoh
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Oh, I am a daytime guy for sure. I'm surprised you aren't, being a bicyclist.
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I love riding my bike at night.

Night + bike + mp3 player = :thumb:
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George K
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jon-nyc
Apr 16 2011, 02:31 AM
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Apr 15 2011, 08:12 AM
Great minds think alike!

They do. And apparently so do you and Horace. :lol:

That is one of the best lines I've read in a long time. I am *SO* going to use that at work. You've made my morning.
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:lol2:
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George K
Apr 16 2011, 05:11 AM
jon-nyc
Apr 16 2011, 02:31 AM
Nobody's Sock
Apr 15 2011, 08:12 AM
Great minds think alike!

They do. And apparently so do you and Horace. :lol:

That is one of the best lines I've read in a long time. I am *SO* going to use that at work. You've made my morning.
And I just watched Caddyshack the other night.

"I tell ya, i get no respect, no respect....."

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George K
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Was that from Caddyshack?
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Horace
Apr 15 2011, 06:33 PM
Nobody's Sock
Apr 15 2011, 01:00 PM
Horace
Apr 15 2011, 11:30 AM
Did you build this yourself, NS? Did you get the SSD in the spot the case intends? I had a bit of an issue with that due to power cord length and SATA3 cord length, so I put it in a normal hard drive slot. Just kinda floats around there.
Yup. The SSD is mounted on the back side as intended. Since it's SATA3, I plugged it into the Intel SATA3 port. No problems with cable lengths either. I love the modular power supply. I just plug in the cables I need, keeps the inside tidy.

I can't believe, of all the cases and power supplies on the market, that you and I got the same ones!

List me your other components.

My pleasure!

I got a 24" HP monitor with the same resolution as yours. How far away from your monitor do you sit? I know you're well thought out about about distance vs screen size, for TVs and monitors and such. I chose 24" because it's less than 2' from my face.

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard drive
* standard, cheap, didn't care.

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366
* would get a 2600k if I had it to do over again. Bought just before I heard about the sandy bridge processors. But this'll be good for a few years, I think. Overclocked to 3.45 at the moment.

Windows 7 Home Premium
* OEM, the sort that can only be installed on one motherboard. Will not be eligible for the "upgrade" price whenever I change computers.

LITE-ON Blu-ray Burner with 3D Playback SATA iHBS212 LightScribe
* based on recommendation from Toms Hardware. No research involved.

SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT02B Black Aluminum / Steel Computer Case
* So cool! Love it! Not planning on adding lights, so the non-windowed version was the thing for me, for the slight increase in sound reduction. However, it didn't come with the upgraded fans in the base, as yours probably did. The windowed versions sell faster and the old inventory probably cleared out faster.

Kingston HyperX 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3K3/6GX
* Overclocked it to 1800 at the moment.

Intel 510 Series (Elm Crest) SSDSC2MH120A2K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
* Probably pretty similar to yours. Windows 7 is up and running 10 seconds after hitting the power button.

EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ...
* Same price as the stock version. Could have gotten more GPU power with a dual card setup at a slightly lower price, but I don't need the GPU power currently and wanted to be able to easily expand in the future with a second card. Low noise is important to me, and the 580s are good for that. For a week or so, I had the best graphics card on the market. :D (No more.)

GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
* Works pretty well. The included computer assembly instructions were an adventure though, for this first time home-builder.

SILVERSTONE ST1000-P 1000W ATX 12V v2.3 & EPS 12V 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
* At first had a 700W power supply but then went to the Nvidia site and learned that if I had two of my graphics cards, I would need a 1000W supply. So I changed the power supply to this one. I guess you got a gold rated one? Mine is only silver. Not sure what that means but I feel emasculated. :(
Nice setup man! Even though you jumped a little soon as Sandy Bridge goes, your rig will last you quite some time I reckon.

Dude! I was also going to go with the GTx580, for the same reasons you mentioned. Get the fastest card now and get another later down the road when I would need one. But I caved and ended up going for the dual card scenario because of cost and immediate performance. The 6950's cost me $275 a pop so 2 of them came in at $550. A single 580 goes for $500, so I went with the bang for your buck mode. I haven't even plugged in the second video card yet, am only running a single right now PC killer, Crysis, is running tops! Since you're an avid Tom's reader, you have probably heard that the 6950's can have their bios flashed to its bigger brother, the 6970 (which costs an extra $75), which I did the other day, and it has boosted my FPS appreciably. I plan on adding the second card today to see the boost I'll get with Crossfire.

I also sit about 2 feet away from my 28", and I have no issues. In fact, with my horsepower, I'm looking into purchasing 2 more monitors for a 3 monitor setup called Eyefinity. It'll have to wait a while though, Mr. Tax Man is depleting my savings this weekend! Bastards!

I also almost got the same Blue Ray burner you got, but in the end decided I just don't need it right now.

I do have the Gold Strider and not sure if my case has the upgraded fans or not, how does one tell?

"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
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George K
Apr 16 2011, 06:13 AM
Was that from Caddyshack?
No but Rodney was the star of the movie. Just made me think of his famous line. Great minds like mine think on a higher level you know. :lol2:
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George K
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Teh Rodney! FTW!
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Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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With SSD, you're reading from solid state memory -- no spinning disk, no metal arm swinging around moving some non-existent read heads back and forth to read from non-existent "cylinders" and "sectors." Reading two blocks of data with addresses that are far apart is just as fast as reading two blocks of data with contiguous addresses.


I don't think that is necessarily true Ax. I haven't looked specifically at solid state drives, but I have done some work with serial flash memory, and it is faster to read from consecutive addresses than random addresses.
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Horace
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HOLY CARP!!!
Nobody's Sock
Apr 16 2011, 06:20 AM
Nice setup man! Even though you jumped a little soon as Sandy Bridge goes, your rig will last you quite some time I reckon.

Dude! I was also going to go with the GTx580, for the same reasons you mentioned. Get the fastest card now and get another later down the road when I would need one. But I caved and ended up going for the dual card scenario because of cost and immediate performance. The 6950's cost me $275 a pop so 2 of them came in at $550. A single 580 goes for $500, so I went with the bang for your buck mode. I haven't even plugged in the second video card yet, am only running a single right now PC killer, Crysis, is running tops! Since you're an avid Tom's reader, you have probably heard that the 6950's can have their bios flashed to its bigger brother, the 6970 (which costs an extra $75), which I did the other day, and it has boosted my FPS appreciably. I plan on adding the second card today to see the boost I'll get with Crossfire.

I also sit about 2 feet away from my 28", and I have no issues. In fact, with my horsepower, I'm looking into purchasing 2 more monitors for a 3 monitor setup called Eyefinity. It'll have to wait a while though, Mr. Tax Man is depleting my savings this weekend! Bastards!

I also almost got the same Blue Ray burner you got, but in the end decided I just don't need it right now.

I do have the Gold Strider and not sure if my case has the upgraded fans or not, how does one tell?

Basically agreed about not needing the blu-ray burner. In fact, I wouldn't need a media drive of any kind if I didn't need it to install windows... it has sat dormant since then.

Silverstone just came out with "air penetrator" fans and made them stock on all newly built FT02 cases. You can tell if you have one by looking at the model number on the fan (can't remember if it's visible without taking the fans all the way out). The Air Penetrators start with AP.

Here's a video showing the difference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m8fC809TK0

If you still have the case's box, it apparently also lets you know if you have the APs:
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As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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Axtremus
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(responding to 1hp 2 posts up)

My understanding of flash memory as used in SSD is roughly as follow:

With NOR flash, it's usually architected as true "random access."

With NAND flash (probably the most popular type of flash used in SSD these days), it's usually architected such that one reads things at the "page" granularity (i.e., you read it one "page" at a time), with multiple pages making up a "block." (You can only "erase" at the "block" granularity.)

It's true that reading from sequential addresses on the same "page" would be faster than reading from random addresses spread over different "pages."

The way I worded my last post was "[r]eading two blocks of data with addresses that are far apart is just as fast as reading two blocks of data with contiguous addresses."

I was addressing the issue at the "block" level, which makes the statement no less applicable at the "page" level. And it's a fair comparison to spinning hard disks because there, you read things one sector at a time (well, actually, N sectors at a time with N being the number of read heads in a hard drive). Typically, a sector holds 512 bytes of data (with new standards being proposed to push it up to 4 kB). A 4-platter, 8-read head setup would read 4 kB worth of data at a time. Typical NAND flash "page" size range from 512 bytes to 4 kB per "page," so it's about the right order of magnitude to make the comparison.
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George K
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So, you guys, how long did it take to assemble, and how much did they cost?
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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Horace
Apr 16 2011, 09:02 AM
Nobody's Sock
Apr 16 2011, 06:20 AM
Nice setup man! Even though you jumped a little soon as Sandy Bridge goes, your rig will last you quite some time I reckon.

Dude! I was also going to go with the GTx580, for the same reasons you mentioned. Get the fastest card now and get another later down the road when I would need one. But I caved and ended up going for the dual card scenario because of cost and immediate performance. The 6950's cost me $275 a pop so 2 of them came in at $550. A single 580 goes for $500, so I went with the bang for your buck mode. I haven't even plugged in the second video card yet, am only running a single right now PC killer, Crysis, is running tops! Since you're an avid Tom's reader, you have probably heard that the 6950's can have their bios flashed to its bigger brother, the 6970 (which costs an extra $75), which I did the other day, and it has boosted my FPS appreciably. I plan on adding the second card today to see the boost I'll get with Crossfire.

I also sit about 2 feet away from my 28", and I have no issues. In fact, with my horsepower, I'm looking into purchasing 2 more monitors for a 3 monitor setup called Eyefinity. It'll have to wait a while though, Mr. Tax Man is depleting my savings this weekend! Bastards!

I also almost got the same Blue Ray burner you got, but in the end decided I just don't need it right now.

I do have the Gold Strider and not sure if my case has the upgraded fans or not, how does one tell?

Basically agreed about not needing the blu-ray burner. In fact, I wouldn't need a media drive of any kind if I didn't need it to install windows... it has sat dormant since then.

Silverstone just came out with "air penetrator" fans and made them stock on all newly built FT02 cases. You can tell if you have one by looking at the model number on the fan (can't remember if it's visible without taking the fans all the way out). The Air Penetrators start with AP.

Here's a video showing the difference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m8fC809TK0

If you still have the case's box, it apparently also lets you know if you have the APs:
Posted Image

well it appears I have the AP fans! one less thing.

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Apr 16 2011, 09:49 AM
So, you guys, how long did it take to assemble, and how much did they cost?
I didn't time myself and I went slow, because I haven't done this since 2003.

One day after work, all my parts had arrived, and I got started. Next thing I knew, it was 12:30am and everything was put together but I hadn't started the Windows install.

Now that I know what I know, I could put this thing together with Windows in under 2 hours easily.

The trickiest part, IMO, is installing an aftermarket CPU cooler for the Intel chip. Every cooler is different and they all have their quirks. The one I bought had so-so instructions, but Youtube is your friend. There were dozens of videos of guys installing this cooler, so that made it easier with the visuals. You also need some thermal paste to apply between the CPU and the cooler, and the coolers are usually HUGE and heavy, so they install with a bracket that goes on the other side of the motherboard. You definitely want to do this with the MB out of the case.

I already had my monitor and speaker system, but everything else came under $2500. The case is $250, the power supply $225, CPU $225, Motherboard $250, RAM $100, Video cards $275 each, SSD drive $200, Hard drive $65, Keyboard $50, Mouse, $30, Windows $100, CpU cooler $50.

It sounds pricey but you get what you pay for.
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Apr 16 2011, 10:54 AM
It sounds pricey but you get what you pay for.
Fvcking Mac Fanboi :lol2:
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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