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| Here come the knee jerk reactions to the tragedy | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 9 2011, 09:21 PM (671 Views) | |
| Improviso | Jan 9 2011, 09:21 PM Post #1 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Guess I better get my Pelosi digs in before it's a federal crime and they lock me up.
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Identifying narcissists isn't difficult. Just look for the person who is constantly fishing for compliments and admiration while breaking down over even the slightest bit of criticism. We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. | |
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| Mark | Jan 9 2011, 09:50 PM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Idiots. |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 9 2011, 10:38 PM Post #3 |
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Dupnik needs to STFU. |
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| Improviso | Jan 9 2011, 10:57 PM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Let's dumb down the discourse to the lowest common denominator, much like we have in the education system. Cause that worked out REALLY well. |
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Identifying narcissists isn't difficult. Just look for the person who is constantly fishing for compliments and admiration while breaking down over even the slightest bit of criticism. We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. | |
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| apple | Jan 10 2011, 04:24 AM Post #5 |
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one of the angels
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actually, that may be true ... that the mentally unbalanced are susceptible to vitriol. it is also true that in many states the mentally ill can still own guns of all sorts. It is also may be true that the less intelligent are open to suggestion.. consider how dumb advertisements are. Perhaps discussing that political communication be less instigatory is wise. Gifford herself was uncomfortable with the bullseye on her district and the printing of her name in that ad (mentioned before) I've had more than my share of experience with the insane, and a flickering candle for instance may prompt one 'crazy' to think of burning down a house. Having had my own beloved brother who seriously tried to kill me due to his schizophrenia, I'm thinking that as a nation, some laws should be revisited. it's a kneejerking to think that fine tuning ownership laws will imfringe upon hunter's rights. I think it is also kneejerking to suggest that toning down the rhetoric of political discourse is out of line. Many politicians and pundits are suggesting that we should put a lid on at least some of the metaphorical images and eliminationist rhetoric. Perhaps we do need to rethink and finetune our articulation of freespeech etc. the mentally challenged have rights, individuals have rights to guns and speech and never the twain (or thwain) shall meet, except maybe in a healthy democracy. |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 10 2011, 08:26 AM Post #6 |
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I agree with that, Apple, but it is irresponsible for a law enforcement official to be making such proclamations about intent, motive and climate at the beginning of an investigation. He is basically creating a defense for the accused -- and the defense lawyers will no doubt have a field day with his statements. I have never seen a cop do that before. |
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| Luke's Dad | Jan 10 2011, 08:41 AM Post #7 |
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Sheriff Dupnik needs to have a sitdown with Sherriff Joe.
Edited by Luke's Dad, Jan 10 2011, 08:42 AM.
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| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| Luke's Dad | Jan 10 2011, 08:47 AM Post #8 |
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From the link:
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| ivorythumper | Jan 10 2011, 08:48 AM Post #9 |
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I suspect he is grandstanding due to his being in the shadow of Arpaio's limelight. |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 10 2011, 08:50 AM Post #10 |
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Those news reports don't bother me -- that is just in line with keeping the public informed about the progress of the investigation. Calling into question the suspect's mental competency, and painting the political climate as contributory, and suggesting motivation, is seriously stupid. |
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| Luke's Dad | Jan 10 2011, 08:52 AM Post #11 |
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I just mean the back tracking. On Saturday, the suspect likely didn't act alone. On Sunday, there is no evidence that anybody else was involved... Ahhh, there wasn't on Saturday, either... |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 10 2011, 08:57 AM Post #12 |
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There was another suspect who was being looked for -- he was found, questioned, and released. |
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| KlavierBauer | Jan 10 2011, 09:05 AM Post #13 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Apple: As per the Gun Control Act of 1968, any serious (potentially dangerous), and diagnosed mental illnesses exclude you from the potential gun ownership pool. This isn't to say mentally ill people can't get their hands on guns (just like every other criminal), but it is already illegal for folks whose illness makes them potentially dangerous to own a firearm. The point is, if you're mentally ill (and a doc knows this), you can't legally own, or carry a firearm, so you're in the same boat as every other gun-carrying criminal. Gun control doesn't work anymore than the war on drugs. Just say no. More control doesn't make people not want to kill others. People use V-Tech as a justification for more gun control, when to me it is the perfect example of why students who can already legally carry should be allowed to on campus. I know my view is the less popular one - and maybe I'm the crazy one. But saying mentally ill folks shouldn't own firearms is needless - it's already illegal for them to own firearms. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Kincaid | Jan 10 2011, 10:28 AM Post #14 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Still not clear on the meaning of "irony". I thought maybe it was ironic when Dupnik, who has decried the atmosphere of "hate" in Arizona, would say the following about himself.
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| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| OperaTenor | Jan 10 2011, 01:30 PM Post #15 |
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Pisa-Carp
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| KlavierBauer | Jan 10 2011, 01:31 PM Post #16 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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*spitting-milk-everywhere-if-I-was-drinking-milk* |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| OperaTenor | Jan 10 2011, 01:33 PM Post #17 |
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I find it amazing I'm seemingly the only one who thought of that resemblance... |
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| KlavierBauer | Jan 10 2011, 01:34 PM Post #18 |
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I don't watch, or read *any* news, so that's the first shot I've seen. I would've instantly thought the same. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| OperaTenor | Jan 10 2011, 01:34 PM Post #19 |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 10 2011, 01:48 PM Post #20 |
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| apple | Jan 10 2011, 01:55 PM Post #21 |
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one of the angels
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KB it would be interesting to know the percentage of mentally ill that have not been adjudicated to be mentally defective or involuntarily committed. Only those would show up on radar. |
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| jon-nyc | Jan 10 2011, 02:21 PM Post #22 |
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Cheers
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It's not limelight, it's a search light. |
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| KlavierBauer | Jan 10 2011, 02:35 PM Post #23 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Apple: I agree completely. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Mark | Jan 10 2011, 02:35 PM Post #24 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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What do you suggest? The thought police? |
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___.___ (_]===* o 0 When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells | |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 10 2011, 03:28 PM Post #25 |
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Different part of the State -- even Sheriff Joe's search light doesn't go down to Tucson. |
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