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Buddhism
Topic Started: Dec 8 2010, 08:08 AM (5,159 Views)
Renauda
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Larry
 
Oh, I just had this silly idea that I'd see if he still believed the words of his God, or if he would defend the cult of "Christian Mysticism" that he chose to tell us about.




Larry, have you considered yoga? I hear it's very calming,
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John D'Oh
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Since Jesus didn't write the Bible himself, I believe that from a legal perspective it must be discounted as heresy hearsay.
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Can one be a Conservative and be a Christian?
Can one be a Liberal and be a Christian?
I think we can let Him sort it out..

Each of those words means different things to different people. If one defines "Buddhism" as a belief in Buddha=God, a problem. If one regards Buddhism as a personal philosophy, perhaps.

Jim Jones was a "Christian" - more so than a priest who practices meditation?

Simon Weisenthal noted that all of the soldiers killing and torturing prisoners in Auschwitz wore crosses. They were "Christians." Are they saved - and the theologian who believes in mindfulness damned?

Or the is the answer, "it depends."

Can someone practice Buddhist philosophy and be Christian?
perhaps.

Can one be Conservative and be Christian?
perhaps

Liberal
dont' want to stretch this too far...

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Since Jesus didn't write the Bible himself, I believe that from a legal perspective it must be discounted as heresy hearsay.


It was wholly ghost written.
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Dewey, without taking various other baits in the thread (and I would heed you to also not take them), I'd like to thank you for a very well written post.
I think you summed up much of what I originally tried to say nicely - if only I had your way with words.

I for one love your version of Christian Mysticism - it is after all very much what the whole thing was about early on. :)
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1) In Luke 16:18 Jesus says:
Luke 16:18
"Every one who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. "


No outs, no exception.

Mark 10:2-12:

"And Pharisees came up and in order to test him asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?" 3 He answered them, "What did Moses command you?" 4 They said, "Moses allowed a man to write a certificate of divorce, and to put her away." 5 But Jesus said to them, "For your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. 6 But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.' 7 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh. 9 What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder." 10 And in the house the disciples asked him again about this matter. 11 And he said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her; 12 and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."

-pretty clear and yet...

"Christians" divorce in droves - no problem - but practice a peaceful philosophy - and you cannot be a Christian or gain salvation? One must have a good bibical lawyer... Again, I think the judgment is not for us to make.
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I personally believe we all (myself included) will be very surprised by who is "saved" and who is not in the end.
I have no idea what will happen, but the God I believe in isn't anxiously awaiting to condemn anyone to anything - my personal belief (it's not well thought out, so sorry if it's confusing), is more along the lines that - Hell (whatever that might be) will exist solely for the people who choose not to be with God (they'll have to exist somewhere), or at least something in that direction, more than it will be a place for all the "bad" people condemned for their actions. I think lots of "good" people won't be able to face God and be repentant/truthful about who they are inside, and I think lots of "bad" people will. As I said, I think we'll be very surprised someday.
Edited by KlavierBauer, Dec 8 2010, 02:31 PM.
"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper
"He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple

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kluurs
Dec 8 2010, 02:13 PM
Simon Weisenthal noted that all of the soldiers killing and torturing prisoners in Auschwitz wore crosses. They were "Christians." Are they saved - and the theologian who believes in mindfulness damned?
Uhhh... yeah ... a swastika is technically a cross...
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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A swastika is lots of things depending on the culture, and the time period in which it's used.
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Dec 8 2010, 02:29 PM
I personally believe we all (myself included) will be very surprised by who is "saved" and who is not in the end.
I have no idea what will happen, but the God I believe in isn't anxiously awaiting to condemn anyone to anything - my personal belief (it's not well thought out, so sorry if it's confusing), is more along the lines that - Hell (whatever that might be) will exist solely for the people who choose not to be with God (they'll have to exist somewhere), or at least something in that direction, more than it will be a place for all the "bad" people condemned for their actions. I think lots of "good" people won't be able to face God and be repentant/truthful about who they are inside, and I think lots of "bad" people will. As I said, I think we'll be very surprised someday.
Every day, the Lord listens to us talking about these subjects. On judgment day, He says, "My ball, my game, my rules...final answer."

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You folks make me wanna get outta the biz. I'm embarrassed to be the subject of your drivel discussion.
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Dec 8 2010, 01:14 PM
I'm still waiting for our first big Agnostic flame-war, where all the different kinds of doubters get into a big fight over which parts of the various faiths they're not that sure about, really.
As we've been told over and over here, a lack of belief is identical in quality to religious belief, it's just the specifics that differ, so clearly it's bound to happen. It hasn't happened here in the 7 or so years the board has existed, so clearly there must be a ton of pent up conflict amongst agnostics and atheists waiting to bubble to the surface. Over/under on when it erupts, I set it at maybe 2 weeks from now. This pressure cooker just can't hold.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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Dec 8 2010, 10:40 AM
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Dec 8 2010, 03:11 PM
John D'Oh
Dec 8 2010, 01:14 PM
I'm still waiting for our first big Agnostic flame-war, where all the different kinds of doubters get into a big fight over which parts of the various faiths they're not that sure about, really.
As we've been told over and over here, a lack of belief is identical in quality to religious belief, it's just the specifics that differ, so clearly it's bound to happen. It hasn't happened here in the 7 or so years the board has existed, so clearly there must be a ton of pent up conflict amongst agnostics and atheists waiting to bubble to the surface. Over/under on when it erupts, I set it at maybe 2 weeks from now. This pressure cooker just can't hold.
We're a scary bunch. I suspect hell will be a lot less intense than heaven.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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The swastika is actually a Buddhist symbol, and (IIRC) means "luck/fortune." Hitler hijacked it and turned it around backwards.

Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin."
Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!"
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Dec 8 2010, 03:27 PM
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Dec 8 2010, 03:11 PM
John D'Oh
Dec 8 2010, 01:14 PM
I'm still waiting for our first big Agnostic flame-war, where all the different kinds of doubters get into a big fight over which parts of the various faiths they're not that sure about, really.
As we've been told over and over here, a lack of belief is identical in quality to religious belief, it's just the specifics that differ, so clearly it's bound to happen. It hasn't happened here in the 7 or so years the board has existed, so clearly there must be a ton of pent up conflict amongst agnostics and atheists waiting to bubble to the surface. Over/under on when it erupts, I set it at maybe 2 weeks from now. This pressure cooker just can't hold.
We're a scary bunch. I suspect hell will be a lot less intense than heaven.
We should get organised, set a date. So the 22nd? A good old pre-Christmas dust up amongst the hell-bound could be fun.
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Dec 8 2010, 01:37 PM
Mark
Dec 8 2010, 01:24 PM
That's "Ohm" D'oh.
You've electrified it?
He couldn't resist.
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The 22nd works for me. :party:
Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin."
Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!"
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Frank: It has shown up in several different cultures at several different times in history, but dates back originally to the Bronze Age in India.
It's commonly seen in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.

It is thought to be so common throughout so many cultures because of it's geometric shape. It is believed that this symbol will arise in any basket weaving culture over time (seriously) on its own.
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"He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple

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Well, I was unsure of the etymology of the symbol itself, but I'm pretty sure about where Hitler stole it from and why he used it.
Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin."
Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!"
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kenny
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Maybe the U.S. Navy weaves baskets or practices Jainism.
Here's a bird's eye view of one of their buildings in San Diego CA built in the 60s.
Opps.

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Hitler at least partly used it because it supposedly had links to the Germanic and Nordic peoples, and their 'glorious past'.
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Hrmm.... Now that, I didn't know. Thanks, John.
Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin."
Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!"
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sue
Dec 8 2010, 03:44 PM
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Dec 8 2010, 03:27 PM
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Dec 8 2010, 03:11 PM
John D'Oh
Dec 8 2010, 01:14 PM
I'm still waiting for our first big Agnostic flame-war, where all the different kinds of doubters get into a big fight over which parts of the various faiths they're not that sure about, really.
As we've been told over and over here, a lack of belief is identical in quality to religious belief, it's just the specifics that differ, so clearly it's bound to happen. It hasn't happened here in the 7 or so years the board has existed, so clearly there must be a ton of pent up conflict amongst agnostics and atheists waiting to bubble to the surface. Over/under on when it erupts, I set it at maybe 2 weeks from now. This pressure cooker just can't hold.
We're a scary bunch. I suspect hell will be a lot less intense than heaven.
We should get organised, set a date. So the 22nd? A good old pre-Christmas dust up amongst the hell-bound could be fun.
We should probably set up a focus group before we actually engage in actual argument. We need to define the terms of the disagreements within a multi-lateral framework, ensuring that all members of our little group are given an equal opportunity to express their opinions, however misguided and asinine they may be.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Kenny: that's interesting - I've never seen that pic before.

The national socialists used it offset 45 degrees from its normal or traditional usage (pictured above).

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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper
"He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple

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