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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 2 2010, 06:27 AM (257 Views) | |
| big al | Dec 2 2010, 06:27 AM Post #1 |
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Bull-Carp
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So what are practical measures to increase employment? Big Al |
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| ivorythumper | Dec 2 2010, 07:33 AM Post #2 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Cut taxes and cut all the Federal mandates for benefits, insurance and minimum wages so that small businesses can afford to hire people. |
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| Frank_W | Dec 2 2010, 07:36 AM Post #3 |
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Right on, IT. Along with that, provide incentives to companies that maintain the bulk of their manufacturing, domestically. Lower taxes, lower taxes, lower taxes. As long as people, small businesses, and large corporations are saddled with massive taxes, they are going to continue outsourcing their manufacturing, and with that, thousands (even millions) of jobs, along with it. As long as consumer confidence remains poor, companies are tightening their belts, freezing new hiring, and the housing market and durable goods market will continue to stagnate. The dollar will continue to weaken and the stock markets will continue to erode. You can't tax your way out of a recession. It's impossible, stupid, and it doesn't work. Since the government is being so free with trillions of dollars, how about paying off peoples' mortgages? That would stimulate the housing market, put more money in taxpayers' pockets that they would use to purchase durable goods, manufacturing would crank up to keep pace with demand, and people would inject billions (even trillions) back INTO the economy! |
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| 1hp | Dec 2 2010, 08:27 AM Post #4 |
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Just remember - the real unemployment number is something in the order of 17%. Long way to go. Also, one would expect things to improve slightly at this time of year as temps are hired to handle the holiday shopping. The Jan and Feb 2011 numbers will be the real indicators. |
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| Axtremus | Dec 2 2010, 08:45 AM Post #5 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Sure ... slavery is pathway to full employment. That said, I fully support lifting the burden of providing healthcare benefits from ALL employers -- single payer universal healthcare is the way to go. |
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| Copper | Dec 2 2010, 09:04 AM Post #6 |
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Shortstop
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If you are volunteering to be the single payer, I agree. |
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| Axtremus | Dec 2 2010, 09:13 AM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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What "massive taxes"? The GWB era has seen ridiculously low tax rates, yet the economy and employment number tanked anyway, big time. The Bill Clinton era had higher tax rates, and the American economy roared and we had about the lowest unemployment rate in US history. This I agree. The dollar has been weakening throughout most of the GWB era with ridiculously low tax rates, but the "strong Dollar policy" was quite effective throughout most of the Clinton era's higher tax rates. If you want stronger Dollar, cutting taxes is not an effective way to get there. (Putting aside the wisdom of wanting of wanting a US Dollar.) If you want stronger consumer confidence, see below ... This is sensible. If we're going to print money anyway, perhaps Obama's $50B mortgage modification program (that's now expected to spend only $12B) should have been many times bigger. As you quite correctly noted above -- consumers are not spending; either because they lack confidence or they lack money or they lack both. Businesses are not expanding, businesses are contracting or folding because there is lack in demand. We have a demand problem, not a supply problem. This is where the deficit hawks go wrong: You can't fix a demand problem by cutting spending. Lower spending == lower demand. As you're going to give money away, don't give it to those who will hoard it, give it to those who will spend it. Who will hoard money if given more? Those who already have a lot of money. Who will spend money if given any? Those who are broke. Simple, isn't it? |
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| Copper | Dec 2 2010, 11:06 AM Post #8 |
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Shortstop
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There is no such thing. If the country were well managed it would turn a profit like any well-run business. Then the tax rate would actually be negative. This is how it should be. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| ivorythumper | Dec 2 2010, 03:19 PM Post #9 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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who said anything about slavery? As a business owner it is in my interest to hire the best qualified at a fair wage since there is competition for talent. |
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