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Stove vent fan that doesn't route the air outside
Topic Started: Aug 18 2010, 10:47 AM (530 Views)
Horace
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Anybody ever heard of a stove ventilation fan that just blows the air right back into the kitchen?

The home inspection I did yesterday turned this up. It's designed behavior but I've never heard of such a thing. Might there be a replaceable filter there? I can't see any use to the fan if not, and I'll have to get a contractor to add some ductwork to route the air outside if not.
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garrett2
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I think that they are fairly common, and wonderfully worthless. We have one in our kitchen that is part of the microwave (the kitchen was designed to have the microwave sit above the stove).
Edited by garrett2, Aug 18 2010, 11:04 AM.
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they probably don't have it vented to the outside.
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Copper
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The filter is probably washable/replaceble.

Dishwasher safe? Maybe.
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Horace
Aug 18 2010, 10:47 AM
Anybody ever heard of a stove ventilation fan that just blows the air right back into the kitchen?

The home inspection I did yesterday turned this up. It's designed behavior but I've never heard of such a thing. Might there be a replaceable filter there? I can't see any use to the fan if not, and I'll have to get a contractor to add some ductwork to route the air outside if not.
These are very useful - they heat the home, and can also be used to make your entire house smell like bacon, a sure-fire aphrodisiac if I ever I heard of one.
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garrett2
Aug 18 2010, 11:04 AM
I think that they are fairly common, and wonderfully worthless. We have one in our kitchen that is part of the microwave (the kitchen was designed to have the microwave sit above the stove).
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Wonderfully worthless, indeed.
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used to make your entire house smell like bacon


Mmmmmm..... Bacon!
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In one apt. building that I lived in, it had a ductless range hood. The range was against an interior wall. I think it used a charcoal filter. I didn’t live there very long and I didn’t cook much so I can’t remember how effective it was.

In another multi-story apt. building I lived in, it had a shared exhaust flue connecting apartments vertically. Fumes would waft in my apartment if someone was cooking in the apt. directly below mine.

A ducted hood to an exterior wall is the best. It’s what I have now.

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Axtremus
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Quite common; replaceable, washable filters; better to have duct that vents outside the house.
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Jolly
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It uses a charcoal filter.

Not as good as one that vents outside, but not totally worthless.
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Jolly
Aug 18 2010, 01:26 PM
It uses a charcoal filter.
Depends; there are metal-mesh-only (no charcoal) ones too.
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depends on how old the filter is (too)
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Aug 18 2010, 01:31 PM
Jolly
Aug 18 2010, 01:26 PM
It uses a charcoal filter.
Depends; there are metal-mesh-only (no charcoal) ones too.
In my experience, the charcoal filters are meant to be used in conjunction with the wire mesh filters. The wire mesh is for trapping grease, and the charcoal filter is for smoke/particulates, and only as a recirculating exhaust.



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jon-nyc
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On advantage is they don't suck all the conditioned air out of your home. Steve Miller once commented how some of the new 'chef's kitchens' require an upgraded HVAC system.
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There is that, isn't there. I guess it's a tradeoff. If you are not meticulous about cleaning filters, venting outside seems like a no-brainer. I'm not meticulous about filters. Mine vents outside. See!

I wouldn't worry too much about lost air conditioning, unless you are cooking all day long in 100 degree heat.
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Aug 18 2010, 02:16 PM
Axtremus
Aug 18 2010, 01:31 PM
Jolly
Aug 18 2010, 01:26 PM
It uses a charcoal filter.
Depends; there are metal-mesh-only (no charcoal) ones too.
In my experience, the charcoal filters are meant to be used in conjunction with the wire mesh filters. The wire mesh is for trapping grease, and the charcoal filter is for smoke/particulates, and only as a recirculating exhaust.

Pretty much.

And it escapes me, but I think you can re-activate the charcoal...
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Horace
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Thanks folks, that's helpful. I was afraid there weren't any filters in there, but I hope there's both the mesh and the charcoal filter. I know you're all on the edges of your seats so I'll let you know when I find out.
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Aug 18 2010, 02:33 PM
On advantage is they don't suck all the conditioned air out of your home. Steve Miller once commented how some of the new 'chef's kitchens' require an upgraded HVAC system.
In the bay area, heating and AC aren't very necessary, luckily, so that's not much of an issue. Actually, contrary to the MLS listing, this place doesn't even have AC. Which is ok by me if a bit disappointing for resale values.

Doing more research on this tonight, it seems that the jury's still out. Builders are pushing it because it's much cheaper, but nobody's sold yet that it's acceptable practice.

My current place has no ventilation whatsoever and I used to cook steaks on the range pretty regularly before I got my outdoor grill. So I know what havoc cooking without good ventilation can wreak on all surfaces within 20' of the stove top. I'll be watching for the signs and will install ducted ventilation if I have to.
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As everyone's already said, pretty common place. Less frequent I think to have a "hood" or something venting to the outside.
Our stove's fan just blows straight back into your face - very nice.
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