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Topic Started: Aug 10 2010, 01:33 PM (682 Views)
Luke's Dad
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The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

"There are 57 different genders, but politics is binary."
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Sexist media, sexist audience, sexist spin, sexist bullsh!t. A girl can dodge or catch the ball herself. If one is too prissy to do either and then complain, find another one.
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He is Soooooo not getting lucky, tonight or any other for a while... :lol:
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Axtremus
Aug 10 2010, 02:20 PM
Sexist media, sexist audience, sexist spin, sexist bullsh!t. A girl can dodge or catch the ball herself. If one is too prissy to do either and then complain, find another one.
Do you hold the door for your spouse? Help with coat?

If so, how come? S/he's capable of opening a door and putting on a coat without you, no?
A guide to GKSR: Click

"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
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Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

"There are 57 different genders, but politics is binary."
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Axtremus
Aug 10 2010, 02:20 PM
Sexist media, sexist audience, sexist spin, sexist bullsh!t. A girl can dodge or catch the ball herself. If one is too prissy to do either and then complain, find another one.
Ever shag a well hit fly ball, sport?
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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Aug 10 2010, 04:38 PM
Axtremus
Aug 10 2010, 02:20 PM
Sexist media, sexist audience, sexist spin, sexist bullsh!t. A girl can dodge or catch the ball herself. If one is too prissy to do either and then complain, find another one.
Do you hold the door for your spouse? Help with coat?

If so, how come? S/he's capable of opening a door and putting on a coat without you, no?
[derail]Personally, I love the concept of the double doors.

By default, I'll hold the door open for anybody, doesn't matter if it's guy/girl/tranny/whatever. The first time. And I'm not looking for a verbal acknowledgment or a shower of praise, but I would like at least some confirmation that you appreciate me holding the door open for you. Heck we don't even have to make eye contact; a quick head nod is more than sufficient.

But you look like you expected it or don't appreciate someone doing you a slight favor (this happens much more often than not from "ladies", if you can believe it), I will use that second set of doors to go out of my way to slam it on your ass. Period. [/derail]


Anyways, George and Jolly get it.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Aug 10 2010, 05:16 PM
Ever shag a well hit fly ball, sport?
Bad visual.
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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Improviso
Aug 10 2010, 03:40 PM
He is Soooooo not getting lucky, tonight or any other for a while... :lol:
He's toast. :lol2:
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George K
Aug 10 2010, 04:38 PM
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Aug 10 2010, 02:20 PM
Sexist media, sexist audience, sexist spin, sexist bullsh!t. A girl can dodge or catch the ball herself. If one is too prissy to do either and then complain, find another one.
Do you hold the door for your spouse? Help with coat?

If so, how come? S/he's capable of opening a door and putting on a coat without you, no?
I make the decision on whether to help some one with putting on a coat or holding the door without considering his/her gender.

E.g., Whether to get the door for some one: Is that some one holding lots of stuff (e.g. grocery), pushing a baby stroller, tending to a child or three, appearing too weak/frail at the moment (e.g., a child who is too young, a senior who is too old, an infirm with cast(s) on one or more extremities), pregnant, handicapped, etc.?

That's how I decide whether I want to bother with getting the door for some one, male, female, transgender, whatever.
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How do you decide whether to jump out of the way of a fly ball so your girlfriend can get hit?
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There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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The decision matrix would generally be the same for any friend, girl, boy, or transgender. This matrix would generally include an estimate on whether the person sitting next to me have the ability to catch/dodge the flyball himself/herself. But if we're talking specifically about a "girlfriend," as in an "adult female significant other in my age range," then you should assume that said person would generally has the ability to dodge/catch the ball herself (see previously post about finding another girlfriend if the previous one is too prissy to catch/dodge a ball), unless she's bogged down by other things (e.g., still recovering from motion impairing injuries, pregnant, holding food/beer, holding a baby/child).
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Good look running through a "decision matrix" in the time you would have to decide. You would probably just end up taking the hit while you were frozen in your moment of indecision which is all good anyway.
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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Aug 11 2010, 04:13 AM
The decision matrix would generally be the same for any friend, girl, boy, or transgender. This matrix would generally include an estimate on whether the person sitting next to me have the ability to catch/dodge the flyball himself/herself. But if we're talking specifically about a "girlfriend," as in an "adult female significant other in my age range," then you should assume that said person would generally has the ability to dodge/catch the ball herself (see previously post about finding another girlfriend if the previous one is too prissy to catch/dodge a ball), unless she's bogged down by other things (e.g., still recovering from motion impairing injuries, pregnant, holding food/beer, holding a baby/child).
"Decision matrix"??

It's reflex, and instinct to protect someone you care about. There was no time to apply a decision matrix. Maybe he doesn't care about her. She'll figure that out. Women have instincts too.
Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML

The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D


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blondie
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Why didn't she catch it or bail?

Sheesh ..

I'll say no more.
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Aug 11 2010, 06:04 AM
Why didn't she catch it or bail?

Sheesh ..

I'll say no more.
Deer in the headlights?
Couldn't see where the ball was - if she moved (bailed) would it have hit her?
Expected the guy to help her out?
Didn't think it would hit her?

Jolly's right. If you've never had a hard hit line drive, or fly ball come your way, it's hard to react. When the ball - which is like a rock - comes off the bat it changes direction, breaks, and doesn't end up where you might think it would, if you're not used to it.
The biggest mistakes i made learning how to play outfield as a kid was getting under the fly ball so it didn't go over your head. Line drives i was fine with.
Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML

The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D


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Good look running through a "decision matrix" in the time you would have to decide.
Phlebas
Aug 11 2010, 04:43 AM
"Decision matrix"??

It's reflex, and instinct to protect someone you care about. There was no time to apply a decision matrix.
"Reflex" and "instinct" are but specific forms of "decision matrix." "Split second judgment/decision" is still a "judgement/decision."

"Protect someone you care about" is a gender neutral sentiment; good for you.

Yet a decision to not shield a loved one from a fly ball do not necessary indicate lack of care or lack of love.

A frail 70 year old grandfather takes a strong 20 year old grandson to a ballgame, sitting side-by-side, and sees a flyball coming towards the grandson. Would you expect the frail 70 year old grandfather to shield the grandson from the flyball? If the grandfather fails to do so, does it mean the grandfather does not care about his grandson?

Somewhere in the decision matrix is a consideration given to "whether the other person needs my protection." In most such circumstances, most grandfathers would rightly let their grandsons take care of themselves, and there wouldn't be a peep out of most people for such a split-second decision made by the grandfathers, least of all any accusation of the grandfather not caring for the grandson.
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Edited by Luke's Dad, Aug 11 2010, 06:45 AM.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Aug 11 2010, 06:39 AM
JBryan
 
Good look running through a "decision matrix" in the time you would have to decide.
Phlebas
Aug 11 2010, 04:43 AM
"Decision matrix"??

It's reflex, and instinct to protect someone you care about. There was no time to apply a decision matrix.
"Reflex" and "instinct" are but specific forms of "decision matrix." "Split second judgment/decision" is still a "judgement/decision."

"Protect someone you care about" is a gender neutral sentiment; good for you.

Yet a decision to not shield a loved one from a fly ball do not necessary indicate lack of care or lack of love.

A frail 70 year old grandfather takes a strong 20 year old grandson to a ballgame, sitting side-by-side, and sees a flyball coming towards the grandson. Would you expect the frail 70 year old grandfather to shield the grandson from the flyball? If the grandfather fails to do so, does it mean the grandfather does not care about his grandson?

Somewhere in the decision matrix is a consideration given to "whether the other person needs my protection." In most such circumstances, most grandfathers would rightly let their grandsons take care of themselves, and there wouldn't be a peep out of most people for such a split-second decision made by the grandfathers, least of all any accusation of the grandfather not caring for the grandson.
I certainly hope that you don't just frivolously define the dependent and independent variables in your decision matrix prior to running it. No, I think to be perfectly clear in your reasoning you should draw a flow chart and possibly write an executable to make sure your logic is sound before actually deciding whether or not to catch the ball yourself.

I've heard that Captain Sullenberger wrote a Stella program before deciding to land his plane in the Hudson.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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OK, it's time to let up on Ax. Tough crowd today. :lol2:
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Oh, it's OK ... I welcome peer review and constructive criticism.

Also bumping this for KlavierBauer. :)
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Wow - that ... is ... awesome.
An entire discussion about a decision matrix.

Look there are only two factors that matter - this was an Astros game (you could tell from the "astros" emblazoned jerseys and the empty stadium), so the couple is presumably from Houston or surrounding area.
The texas woman is fully capable of defending herself in many ways, but she is a cunning species, and will also expect some level of chivalry and respect from her man - such as taking the bullet for her when necessary.
This has nothing to do with any decision the guy made, other than the decision he made a long time ago to be an absolute tool bag.

I hold the door for anyone, just because I got there first. I continue to hold it as people walk through. I do it for one reason only - it allows me to feel morally superior, and talk poorly about all of the people who don't hold doors for me when I walk somewhere. Similarly, I'd try to protect anyone who wasn't paying attention to the game (very prevalent in baseball stadiums) from getting tagged with a fly ball, if for no other reason than to be awesome.
"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper
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Heh.



http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6766250n

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The foul ball seen 'round the world has apparently led to the couple involved going separate ways.

The young couple got a painful lesson in chivalry - or the lack of it - at a Houston Astros game at Minute Maid Park Monday night.

Sara Saco-Vertiz was struck on the right arm by a foul ball off the bat of Chris Johnson in the fourth inning.

She and then-boyfriend Bo Wyble were sitting in field-level seats down the left-field line. As the ball approached, he hurried out of the way at the last second, and it hit Saco-Veritz.

The incident was caught on tape, and the video's gone viral, having been clicked on more than 350,000 times on YouTube.

On "The Early Show" Thursday, Saco-Veritz indicated the two have called it quits - though she said it isn't only because of what happened at the game.

Asked by co-anchor Harry Smith about their status, Saco-Veritz said, "Alright. Well, I mean it[s not over because of the ball. Umů" "More than we want to know," Smith interjected.

She also said she wasn't badly hurt at all, and revealed she and Wyble weren't even supposed to be in the seats they were in at the time - they'd moved up, she sheepishly admitted.

Saco-Veritz said she'd warned Wyble that the seats they switched to would make it more likely a ball would hit them. Wyble told Smith he then told Saco-Veritz he'd catch it if one came their way. But when it did, Wyble told Smith, he "lost sight of it," so he scampered away, figuring she would, too.

"That's all ya got?!" in the way of an excuse, Smith asked incredulously.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/12/earlyshow/main6766272.shtml

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I just want to redirect this thread back to how awesome I am for holding doors open for people.

kkthnx
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"He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple

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KlavierBauer
Aug 12 2010, 02:29 PM
I just want to redirect this thread back to how awesome I am for holding doors open for people.
Probably no decision matrix involved either, right KB?
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