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| Jolly | Aug 9 2010, 06:02 AM Post #1 |
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An AP story about the Phelps Correctional center: DEQUINCY, La. - Strawberry preserves ... blueberry syrup ... fresh honey ... homegrown tomatoes ... Believe it or not, that's just a sampling of the usual fare at C. Paul Phelps Correctional Center in DeQuincy. But prison officials say the 942 inmates are by no means pampered or spoiled. In fact, they spend their days working in the prison's massive gardens and in the kitchen canning and cooking the food they eat. From seed to plate, the inmates are responsible for their meals. Prison officials say the gardening program helps keep food costs low and inmates satisfied. "If you read a lot of literature about corrections and prisons, disturbances commonly are caused by dissatisfaction with meals. You have to be real careful about food service," said Warden Robert Henderson. Inmates, supervised by gun guards, plant and tend to fruit and vegetables on 32 prison acres year-round. They work from about 7 a.m. to 4 p.m. with exception of lunch time and "work calls." Guards must count inmates when they enter and leave the fields. They also inventory tools. The inmates grow a variety of crops, including greens, okra, corn, squash, tomatoes, potatoes, cabbage, blueberries, strawberries, onions, watermelon, peppers, figs and peas. The prison even has its own bees and honey. A pecan orchard has also been planted, though the trees are still too young to produce. Cattle graze fields at the prison and are tended to by inmates. They also help care for the horses that are used on the garden work details. Officials said there have even been times when inmates have been tasked to pick bugs off the plants. One year, Henderson said, the prison's potato crop was infested with Colorado speckled beetle and insecticides had no impact on the bugs. "They would just go underground," he said. "We came up with the idea that we would just get all the inmates, let them walk down the rows with a tin or a bottle and let them put the beetles in there and we know we can destroy them that way. That was the only way we were able to raise a crop." In addition to caring for the plants in the garden, inmates also seed them in greenhouses. When crops are harvested, they go directly to the prison kitchen where inmates blanche them and prepare the so that they can be preserved. Lt. Brian Hooper works at the prison and supervises kitchen operations. Hooper said sometimes the kitchen has a difficult time keeping up with the garden's turnout. He said the crop yields were so high one year that the prison went 18 months without using a canned vegetable - an $80,000 savings to the prison. "We process and use everything," he said. Hooper said there have been times when the prison had an overabundance of a crop - like greens or onions - and they donated the overflow to a need in the community. Last year, the prison had a successful strawberry crop. "We went almost five to six months off of strawberries that we preserved and put up. We used no bought jelly or anything like that. We made it all ourselves," Hooper said. Hooper said most of the inmates enjoy their work, especially those in the kitchen. He said the inmates from urban areas always learn a thing or two. "I find that the inmates that come here from the country towns, it's just a way of life for them, but now, the ones that come from New Orleans and the city, we have to teach them how to shell peas," he said. Assistant Warden Jolene Constance said inmates learn skills through the prison's gardening operation that help them when they are released. Constance said what makes Phelps unique is that the prison has inmates who have 10 years or less left to serve. "We pretty much have a revolving door," she said. "We are preparing them to go back to the community." Occasionally, prison officials said, an inmate teaches them a thing or two about gardening. Milton Anderson is an inmate that work's in the prison's greenhouses. He seeds plants and takes care of them until they are ready to be planted in the gardens. Anderson said he used to work in the citrus fields in Plaquemines Parish and on golf courses. He said he enjoys his days spent in the greenhouses. "No, I don't like it - I love doing it," he said. "Once you get into it, you get hooked on it. It's something to do you put a seed in the cup and come back two days later and they are growing." Anderson said he likes growing tomatoes best, but he also enjoys experimenting with his seeding. "Sometimes I'll just take something to see if it will grow faster if I do it this way, if I do it that way, just to see how it is," he said. Anderson said gardening gives him a sense of pride. He said it's something he hopes to do when he gets out of prison and returns to Plaquemines Parish. He said he wants to grow vegetables for his family there. "It's producing ... it's doing something," he said. |
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| brenda | Aug 9 2010, 06:07 AM Post #2 |
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This is how many prisons used to be decades ago. They would basically be a big farm, and self-sufficient in many ways. Life skills of many forms get taught this way. |
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| Jolly | Aug 9 2010, 07:01 AM Post #3 |
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We also previously had truck farms at our mental institutions and at the state center for people with developmental disabilities. The the do-gooders got involved and those things went away. My uncle ran the hog farm at the largest institution in the state for people with developmental disabilities. He said it was the worst day of his life when the trucks pulled up to take the last of the livestock away and it was his job to explain to his many clients that they no longer had a job. Now, instead of working, being useful and helping to provide for themselves and others, they would be taught "life skills" in a classroom. He thought he was teaching life skiils...to be responsible, to work, to have goals, to be kind to animals and other people, to clean up behind yourself. Guess those weren't the life skills they wanted. He didn't know who cried harder that day...the patients who couldn't understand why they were being punished or the man who had to try to make them understand why they couldn't work for him, anymore. My uncle retired the next day. |
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| Mikhailoh | Aug 9 2010, 08:20 AM Post #4 |
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That is the way the prison near my home town worked too.. it was never called the prison, but always the 'prison farm'. Great idea. They eat cheaper and better. |
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| big al | Aug 9 2010, 12:34 PM Post #5 |
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I wonder what the status of prison work farms is nationwide? I found two in North Carolina with a quick Google search as well as this NYT article citing 17 in NY back in 1988. I remember hearing about people being sentenced to the farm years ago, but haven't really thought about convict labor lately. I'm going to have to find out more about this subject. A little further research turned up this: Pennsylvania Correctional Industries. This is part of the state penal system here. Now I'm wondering whether some of the counties still have work farms. Big Al Edited by big al, Aug 9 2010, 12:49 PM.
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Location: Western PA "jesu, der simcha fun der man's farlangen." -bachophile | |
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| Jolly | Aug 9 2010, 01:26 PM Post #6 |
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The biggest Louisiana prison farm is at Angola, of course...which is sometimes called "The Farm" by those incarcerated. The state even has a captive company which markets and distributes goods: http://www.corrections.state.la.us/PE/who.htm |
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| big al | Aug 9 2010, 05:13 PM Post #7 |
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That's also the function of Pennsylvania Correctional Industries. They sell mostly to other state government entities. I'm still looking for more info on whether any counties run work farms in conjunction with their jails. I know one contentious issue in this state about convict labor is competition with enterprises that have to pay wages that can't compete with what prisoners are paid. Big Al |
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Location: Western PA "jesu, der simcha fun der man's farlangen." -bachophile | |
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| Jolly | Aug 9 2010, 07:16 PM Post #8 |
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That's why Prison Enterprises can only sell to government entities. I see no problem with trying to keep the cost of government down by using convict labor, as long as the labor is not mandatory. The prisoners here volunteer for the work. Sometimes they get paid, sometimes like with the road crews, they don't. But I would think doing grounds maintenance or picking up litter is preferable to looking at a cell wall. |
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