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Judge rules that "Proposition 8" is unconstitutional; ...breaking news
Topic Started: Aug 4 2010, 12:49 PM (4,096 Views)
Mikhailoh
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John D'Oh
Aug 4 2010, 04:52 PM
Designer stubble would be another good one.
Spoken like a true pasty faced Englishman. :lol2:
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Mikhailoh
Aug 4 2010, 04:58 PM
John D'Oh
Aug 4 2010, 04:52 PM
Designer stubble would be another good one.
Spoken like a true pasty faced Englishman. :lol2:
Being too hungover to hold a razor does not constitute designer stubble, so don't worry you're off the hook.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Jolly
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Why is nobody commenting on the fact the presiding judge is homosexual?
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Mikhailoh
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Wasn't aware. Isn't that interesting. Can you say 'recuse'?
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Why is nobody commenting on the fact that the judge is American?
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Jolly
Aug 4 2010, 06:10 PM
Why is nobody commenting on the fact the presiding judge is homosexual?
Who cares?
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Steve Miller
Aug 4 2010, 06:30 PM
Jolly
Aug 4 2010, 06:10 PM
Why is nobody commenting on the fact the presiding judge is homosexual?
Who cares?
I do.

It means he definitely has a dog in the fight.
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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Larry
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Axtremus
Aug 4 2010, 02:10 PM
This is a step forward. You just failed to see it as such. Give it some time ... almost all will also see this as an obvious step forward.
Ah, the liberal view which says


"We know what's best for you. You're just not smart enough to see it right now".......


Well - F*CK you liberals.

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Big John
Aug 4 2010, 02:16 PM
People have to think that society is on a great slide downhill so they can think apocalyptically and wave their fingers and blame people for what really amounts to their own shortcomings. It's a story as old as time. Right now, the gays are the reason for this supposed downward slide. Next year it will be someone else. the important thing is that people need to always believe that the slide is continuous and that it can't be stopped because of all the OTHER people that are causing it.
And yet another example of perspective from having your head up your ass.


You have it exactly backwards. It's not gays under assault, it's everyone else.


And mostly it's another assault on the Constitution.


I think the public has been tolerant long enough. It's time to tell the fudge packers to get back in the closet.

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Jolly
Aug 4 2010, 06:49 PM
Steve Miller
Aug 4 2010, 06:30 PM
Jolly
Aug 4 2010, 06:10 PM
Why is nobody commenting on the fact the presiding judge is homosexual?
Who cares?
I do.

It means he definitely has a dog in the fight.
By that standard, no heterosexual judge could rule in favor of Prop 8.

The fact is that he applied widely held legal standards to the case (due process/ equal protection) and it will either remain or fall on those grounds, not his orientation.
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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ivorythumper
Aug 4 2010, 07:03 PM
Jolly
Aug 4 2010, 06:49 PM
Steve Miller
Aug 4 2010, 06:30 PM
Jolly
Aug 4 2010, 06:10 PM
Why is nobody commenting on the fact the presiding judge is homosexual?
Who cares?
I do.

It means he definitely has a dog in the fight.
By that standard, no heterosexual judge could rule in favor of Prop 8.

The fact is that he applied widely held legal standards to the case (due process/ equal protection) and it will either remain or fall on those grounds, not his orientation.
Judges are human.

You are more trusting than I.
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Axtremus
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Larry
Aug 4 2010, 06:57 PM
Axtremus
Aug 4 2010, 02:10 PM
This is a step forward. You just failed to see it as such. Give it some time ... almost all will also see this as an obvious step forward.
Ah, the liberal view which says


"We know what's best for you. You're just not smart enough to see it right now".......

I didn't make any claim as to what would be best for you.

I said almost all will come to see this as an obvious step forward [in the course of human history].

Your confusing the former for the later betrays your deficient intellect.
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Axtremus
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HOLY CARP!!!
Jolly
Aug 4 2010, 07:26 PM
ivorythumper
Aug 4 2010, 07:03 PM
Jolly
Aug 4 2010, 06:49 PM
Steve Miller
Aug 4 2010, 06:30 PM
Jolly
Aug 4 2010, 06:10 PM
Why is nobody commenting on the fact the presiding judge is homosexual?
Who cares?
I do.

It means he definitely has a dog in the fight.
By that standard, no heterosexual judge could rule in favor of Prop 8.

The fact is that he applied widely held legal standards to the case (due process/ equal protection) and it will either remain or fall on those grounds, not his orientation.
Judges are human.

You are more trusting than I.
In this case, he thought this through more thoroughly than you.
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Larry
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Axtremus
Aug 4 2010, 08:43 PM
Larry
Aug 4 2010, 06:57 PM
Axtremus
Aug 4 2010, 02:10 PM
This is a step forward. You just failed to see it as such. Give it some time ... almost all will also see this as an obvious step forward.
Ah, the liberal view which says


"We know what's best for you. You're just not smart enough to see it right now".......

I didn't make any claim as to what would be best for you.

I said almost all will come to see this as an obvious step forward [in the course of human history].

Your confusing the former for the later betrays your deficient intellect.
Nothing wrong with my intellect, you twit.

You said it is a step forward, and that given time most of us (meaning, those of us who don't see it your way) will come to agree with you.

In other words, we're wrong, you're right, we're not smart enough to see it right now, but eventually we will figure it out and agree with you.


F*ck you.

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Steve Miller
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Larry
Aug 4 2010, 07:00 PM
And mostly it's another assault on the Constitution.
How so?
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Larry
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In this case, he thought this through more thoroughly than you.



See, you did it again. You're so f*cking eaten up with the liberal view that you alone know the truth that you just can't help yourself, nor are you even capable of seeing what you're doing.
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Larry
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Aug 4 2010, 09:04 PM
Larry
Aug 4 2010, 07:00 PM
And mostly it's another assault on the Constitution.
How so?
You do know what the Constitution is, right? I mean.. you are aware that was not written to tell the people what their rights are, but to tell the government what rights IT has, right?

Government operates by the people, for the people. We tell government what to do, not the other way around. The people told the state of California they do not want gay marriage. Our Constitution is designed to protect the will of the people from the very thing this activist judge did.

You may not like it, you may not agree with it, but the fact remains that the will of the people in California is that they do not want gay marriage, and circumventing the peoples' will through activist judges is not only against the Constitution, it weakens the very fabric of this nation.

If homosexuals want to get married, their option is to change the public's opinion. That is the ONLY option they have, forcing it onto the public against their will is wrong, and in the end it is going to do them permanent damage to their cause.

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Mikhailoh
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Jolly
Aug 4 2010, 07:26 PM
ivorythumper
Aug 4 2010, 07:03 PM
Jolly
Aug 4 2010, 06:49 PM
Steve Miller
Aug 4 2010, 06:30 PM
Jolly
Aug 4 2010, 06:10 PM
Why is nobody commenting on the fact the presiding judge is homosexual?
Who cares?
I do.

It means he definitely has a dog in the fight.
By that standard, no heterosexual judge could rule in favor of Prop 8.

The fact is that he applied widely held legal standards to the case (due process/ equal protection) and it will either remain or fall on those grounds, not his orientation.
Judges are human.

You are more trusting than I.
Let us not forget this faith in jurisprudence was nowhere to be found when it was (falsely) claimed that a judge who struck down the drilling ban had a financial interest.
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blondie
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I think heterosexuals have done a fine job of screwing up this marriage thing. I still don't understand why gays want to go this route. Heck, if I were young again, partnering up again, there's no way I'd get a piece of paper for it. There's just no need for it. I'm convinced many of us went that route just to apease our parents and their values. Living together is an accepted legit norm now in N. America.
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Axtremus
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Larry
Aug 4 2010, 09:04 PM
You said it is a step forward, and that given time most of us (meaning, those of us who don't see it your way) will come to agree with you.
Sigh ...

Your sorely lacking reading comprehension skill has led you to read things that are not there. I make no claim that "most of you [who don't see it my way]" will come to agree with me (i.e., I do not expect "most of you" to change your minds), just that over time, almost all [of the human population] will come to see this as a step forward. This can happen without any of you who currently disagree with me every changing your minds for the rest of your lives. All that's needed is for the trend that more and more of the younger generations are growing up to see that granting marriage equality for same-sex couples as a step forward to continue.

It's rather a pity that the more you post, the more you exhibit deficiencies in your intellect.
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Mikhailoh
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Jolly
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Axtremus
Aug 5 2010, 04:53 AM
Larry
Aug 4 2010, 09:04 PM
You said it is a step forward, and that given time most of us (meaning, those of us who don't see it your way) will come to agree with you.
Sigh ...

Your sorely lacking reading comprehension skill has led you to read things that are not there. I make no claim that "most of you [who don't see it my way]" will come to agree with me (i.e., I do not expect "most of you" to change your minds), just that over time, almost all [of the human population] will come to see this as a step forward. This can happen without any of you who currently disagree with me every changing your minds for the rest of your lives. All that's needed is for the trend that more and more of the younger generations are growing up to see that granting marriage equality for same-sex couples as a step forward to continue.

It's rather a pity that the more you post, the more you exhibit deficiencies in your intellect.
No, he's a bit ahead of you in the thought process.

Right now, gay marriage has been defeated in every public plebicite. It is your opinion that the younger generation is more tolerant of gay marriage, leading to an erosion of opposition with time.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. Funny things happen on the way to the forum, you know. Any societal-wide event, be it war, political discontent such as Watergate, etc., will change the few of society, sometimes almost in perpetuity.

But the fact remains, the only way gay activists can supplant the will of the people, is to cast gay marriage as a right, one found in the Constitution. If one actually considers anything about the Founders, the mere mention in their meetings of sodomites marrying would have been met with howls of derision and the speaker probably would have been dodging cups and tankards, if not more lethal flying objects.
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Copper
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blondie
Aug 5 2010, 04:40 AM

Living together is an accepted legit norm now in N. America.

No it isn't.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Jolly
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Copper
Aug 5 2010, 06:08 AM
blondie
Aug 5 2010, 04:40 AM

Living together is an accepted legit norm now in N. America.

No it isn't.
Not in my neck of the woods, either.
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Mikhailoh
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It is tolerated, but not ncessarily an accepted as the desireable norm.
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