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| The Value of a Volt | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 1 2010, 08:13 AM (359 Views) | |
| George K | Aug 1 2010, 08:13 AM Post #1 |
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Finally
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How Much Does it Really Cost? The sticker price is $41,000. However, with federal subsidies, you could pay as little as $33,500. Additional subsidies provided by the state of California could knock it down even lower, for residents of the Golden State. So what's the price? $41,000, of course. The subsidies just mean you don't pay all of it. The utterly bankrupt federal government takes money from other taxpayers, and uses it to discount your purchase. Since California is teetering on the edge of total collapse, and may well require federal bailouts in the near future, taxpayers across the country could end up paying additional sums to support Volt purchases that happen to occur within the state of California. These transfer payments are mixed into the thickening concrete surrounding the American economy, making it just a few inches deeper. But wait, there's more. Almost four hundred million dollars in federal subsidies were pumped directly into the design and production of the Volt. The initial production run consists of just ten thousand units, with 45,000 more planned for 2012 if sales are good. This would add just over $7200 more in taxpayer subsidies to each Volt produced over the next two years. Since 2012 production will be scaled back if early sales are disappointing, it might be more logical to add the subsidies to the first 10,000 units only, which would leave early adopters outside of California paying $33,500 for a car which actually costs $81,000 per unit, with taxpayers picking up the remainder. It's actually even worse than that, because GM expects to lose money on every Volt sale. Those losses will be spread among other GM products, or perhaps wiped out with further taxpayer subsidies. The Volt would not exist at all, if the government had not performed an elaborate voodoo ritual which involved burning $50 billion in taxpayer cash and sprinkling the ashes over the United Auto Workers union. This raised General Motors from its free-market grave, and placed it at the service of those who killed it. How much of this fifty billion should be divided among the Volt production run to calculate its true, final value? There was no great consumer demand for the Volt. Toyota has been doing quite well selling the Prius, and Nissan has its own electric car, the Leaf, on the way. The purpose of seizing money from taxpayers to finance the Volt was preserving the jobs of union members politically connected to the Democrat Party, a point President Obama underlined in a recent speech in Detroit:
The folks who would have prevented this glorious moment in State engineering would be you, the taxpayers, who would never have agreed to pay almost fifty grand apiece to underwrite the production and sale of a little fleet of tiny cars with laughable battery cruise ranges ... and overall fuel efficiency that would take decades to equal the cost of purchasing and fueling a more attractive, existing vehicle that didn't require massive government subsidies. Obama is lying through his teeth when he refers to the GM bailout as an "investment" Politicians love to throw that word around, because they think it makes them sound like savvy businessmen. Investments are voluntary acts, conducted with the expectation of return. You were compelled to pay for the development of the Volt, and unless you're one of the tiny percentage of the public who purchase one, you will receive nothing in return for these payments. You paid to preserve the jobs of rich and powerful labor unions, and provide a handsome discount to the few buyers who find the emotional satisfaction of saluting Green dogma to be worth $33,500. Virtually no one would be willing to pay the true price of $81,000 for that satisfaction. Subsidies and mandates based on ideology hopelessly distort the value of products, confusing the marketplace in the same manner as consumer fraud and theft. It's as if car dealers were in the practice of routinely stealing automobiles from other states, and reselling them at steep discounts. The ability of the consumer to assess value and make rational purchases, expressing their demands and allowing the distributed intelligence of the markets to allocate resources efficiently in response, is destroyed. Worst of all, consumers never see the opportunity costs of enforcing political mandates on the economy. They never see what could have been done with all the money taken from them to provide subsidies to the politically connected. They'll never know what other auto manufacturers would have done to win over the market share released by the richly-deserved death of General Motors, or how many jobs would have been created by the production of goods the free people of the United States actually want. The number of Chevy Volts desired by those free people is zero. By government decree, there will be up to 55,000 of them gathering dust in the far corners of three-car garages by 2012. The government didn't subsidize this boondoggle. The "government" doesn't subsidize anything. You do. Imagine what the taxpayers of America might have done with the billions taken away from them to produce those cars, divide that lost value by 55,000, and you will begin to comprehend the true cost of a Chevy Volt. |
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| Kincaid | Aug 1 2010, 10:50 AM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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The article is not being completely straightforward - every vehicle, even the next generation Chevy Malibu, has millions or even billions of dollars in development. |
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| Copper | Aug 1 2010, 11:02 AM Post #3 |
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Shortstop
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Obviously. But it's worth mentioning that one of the things you get from that research and before you go with development is some hope of profit. This car has no hope of profit any time soon. |
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| Axtremus | Aug 1 2010, 11:22 AM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Sometimes you embark on a project not to derive profit directly from the project but for some other strategic reasons. |
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| George K | Aug 1 2010, 11:35 AM Post #5 |
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Finally
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| Dewey | Aug 1 2010, 11:41 AM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Yes, in private-sector new product development, the R&D cost is calculated into the unit cost of the product, and paid for, before net profit is determined - unlike what is happening here. That was a very well written article. As far as "other strategic reasons," that is correct - and unfortunately, as the article points out, it's all too easy to determine what those strategic reasons were. |
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| Mikhailoh | Aug 1 2010, 01:01 PM Post #7 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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What flabbergasts me is that one short year ago our auto industry was foundering, on the verge of going under. Members of my family have been in the auto industry in Detroit for four generations now. We know a little bit about it. I work daily with lots of people from the industry as well. Each and every one of them scoff at the notion that ANYTHING could be accomplished in 12 moths that actually turned them around. What I would like to know is exactly what steps were taken and what effect they had both operationally and on the bottom line. What I do know is that for all the claims of '55K new jobs added', many more have been lost. I'm not necessarily against the bailout, but as the financiers of it we have no idea what was actually done. |
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| Axtremus | Aug 1 2010, 05:02 PM Post #8 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Google and Wikipedia are your friends: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_the_2008-2010_automotive_industry_crisis_on_the_United_States |
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| jon-nyc | Aug 1 2010, 08:07 PM Post #9 |
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Cheers
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It makes perfect sense for the US (and other countries) to accelerate the EV industry through subsidies. |
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| bachophile | Aug 1 2010, 08:26 PM Post #10 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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