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| "Human Rights?" | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 2 2010, 07:57 AM (1,029 Views) | |
| George K | Jul 2 2010, 07:57 AM Post #1 |
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With all the brouhaha about Arizona, I wonder how much play this will get: Death By Stoning
Edited by George K, Jul 2 2010, 07:58 AM.
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| brenda | Jul 2 2010, 08:31 AM Post #2 |
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Yep, it's a way out of a marriage for the husband. I'll be looking for it in the local media, George, but not holding my breath. |
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“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.” ~A.A. Milne | |
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| jon-nyc | Jul 2 2010, 08:34 AM Post #3 |
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Cheers
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I doubt your local media has a Tehran bureau anymore. |
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| Axtremus | Jul 2 2010, 08:42 AM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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You won't see it in "local media" in the US as most "mass media" in the US suck at reporting foreign news. This Iran thing has no US involvement. Surely there are more tragic news that one women getting stoned to death; famine, child/women slavery/traficking, pandemics, etc. But, no, your "local media" prefer to give the non-advertising square inches to some local teenager doing some volunteering/charity or some local high school having a prom. And we get giddy if piano or classical music non-news get a few inches of column space every once in a while. That, George, is also the answer to your question "I wonder how much play this will get." |
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| brenda | Jul 2 2010, 08:50 AM Post #5 |
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I think you meant "one woman", Ax. To that I would say, "If it were only one woman." It's not just one. It's one after another. |
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| John D'Oh | Jul 2 2010, 09:00 AM Post #6 |
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MAMIL
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There are massive human rights abuses going on throughout the world. None are as important as some kid who didn't get into his dad's balloon, some daft girl trying to sail around the world or whether Miley Cyrus is still a virgin. You can blame the media if you like, but we're the ones reading this sh!t. |
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| Mikhailoh | Jul 2 2010, 09:01 AM Post #7 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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What the hell. Let's 'stone' the mullahs. Of course our stones are bigger than theirs. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Axtremus | Jul 2 2010, 09:03 AM Post #8 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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The local high school have proms year after year after year ... the "local media" are digging them, more so than they dig the abuse of one foreign woman after another after another.
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| John D'Oh | Jul 2 2010, 09:07 AM Post #9 |
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MAMIL
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Sadly, when we do that there's a lot of innocent men, women and children that get killed by accident, and then we leave and the mullahs come back. |
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| brenda | Jul 2 2010, 09:13 AM Post #10 |
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I'm not disagreeing, Ax. I'm saying this needs more media attention. It should be in all the major papers to shine a light on this. We should also question why it does not get more press, which I think is the point George wants to make. And as I noted above, I'm not holding my breath while waiting to see more coverage of yet one more woman being stoned to death without any witnesses to her supposed crime. Thank you for posting this, George. |
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| George K | Jul 2 2010, 09:19 AM Post #11 |
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Exactly. While the media is screaming about 'racism' in Arizona, and supporting a foreign government's involvement in our legislation (while ignoring the inconvenient truth that that government's laws are even more restrictive), a true human rights tragedy is given scant, if any coverage. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Axtremus | Jul 2 2010, 09:19 AM Post #12 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Heck, I'd question you and George why you think this, and not other tragedies/abuses elsewhere around the world, ought to get more press. |
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| Mikhailoh | Jul 2 2010, 09:22 AM Post #13 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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So you pick today to be humorless? Oh yeah... bad mood due to Independence Day.
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| brenda | Jul 2 2010, 09:27 AM Post #14 |
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Ax, you're right. These women just don't deserve to live. There are certainly more worthy stories of abuse that are more important.
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| brenda | Jul 2 2010, 09:29 AM Post #15 |
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Ax, the other stories of abuse and tragedy don't make these women less deserving of having their story told, too. |
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| Aqua Letifer | Jul 2 2010, 09:30 AM Post #16 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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+1. Obvious enough, IMO. |
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| KlavierBauer | Jul 2 2010, 09:31 AM Post #17 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Ax: I think this is a basic difference between our world views. For me, the violation is the same whether it's one woman being stoned or millions dying in genocide - it's a violation of individual rights as a human. I don't believe in quantity being more valuable, so it doesn't follow logically for me that atrocities happening to more people deserve more coverage than atrocities happening to one. Her rights are to me as valid and important as the rights of a million in the Congo. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| John D'Oh | Jul 2 2010, 09:36 AM Post #18 |
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MAMIL
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The woman's rights are very important. The problem is, nobody over here wants to read about it. This isn't mostly due to cynical media manipulation, but Western insularity and superficiality. |
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| brenda | Jul 2 2010, 09:39 AM Post #19 |
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John, this nobody wants to see it on the front page.
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| KlavierBauer | Jul 2 2010, 09:42 AM Post #20 |
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John, I understand what you're saying and to a degree you're right. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| brenda | Jul 2 2010, 10:02 AM Post #21 |
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Hmmm..., yes and no, we read of various human rights issues in the media here, but not of these women's issues so much. Again, I think George's point is that a topic here will be trumped up as a human rights issue, perhaps on very shaky logic, while a true tragedy against human rights, with life threatening consequences, is ignored. The inconsistency of the indignation is the point. |
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| John D'Oh | Jul 2 2010, 10:14 AM Post #22 |
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Fox News doesn't get all bent out of shape by European tax increases either. People complain about Arizona, because it's their government that's doing it, just as they complain about Obama because he's the US President. In fact, I'd go as far as to suggest that Fox News complains more about US tax increases than they do about the Chinese oppression of Tibet or the genocide in Rwanda. On a global scale of 1 to 10 million, one of these probably rates a 5, and one rates a 10 million, but which is which? Certain groups of people regularly compare Obama to Hitler - now, either they're incredibly stupid, woefully ill-informed, or they've got some f*cked up agenda of their own. Why not go and complain about people who are actually like Hitler? |
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| brenda | Jul 2 2010, 10:25 AM Post #23 |
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That's the 'yes' component as I noted above. Local news surely has the advantage in local coverage. I'm glad to see CNN at least had an article at its website on the stoning issue. Call me crazy, but I want more coverage of this topic. Sometimes the media can make a swing in public opinion, and this topic screams for it. |
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| George K | Jul 10 2010, 04:31 PM Post #24 |
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Ain't irony ironical? From just 10 weeks ago:
Fast Forward:
Edited by George K, Jul 10 2010, 04:33 PM.
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| brenda | Jul 10 2010, 04:45 PM Post #25 |
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:shaking head: |
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