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Some People Just Don't Get It; Concert goers walk out on Julie Andrews
Topic Started: May 11 2010, 05:28 AM (752 Views)
Aqua Letifer
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Axtremus
May 11 2010, 10:16 AM
People walking out on poor performance also has the broader effect of discouraging performers who cannot deliver from trying to perform (and/or discouraging promoters trying to trout out performers who cannot deliver).
That's interesting.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Mikhailoh
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It's pretty fishy if you ask me.
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John D'Oh
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Booing Beethovens piano playing after he went deaf would have helped him learn to deal with his disability I'm sure. Well, except for the fact that he wouldn't have heard the boos.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Axtremus
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Deaf or not is not the issue.
If a performer delivers despite being deaf, applaud.
If a performer does not deliver despite having good hearing, walk out.

C'mon, even the deaf Beethoven could have seen people walking out. Boo the blind, but not deaf, performers instead when they fail to deliver.
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May 11 2010, 10:16 AM
No, I don't think that the concept of "being taken to the cleaners" applies here at all.

But I can understand not wanting to suffer the heartache (or just not wanting to waste time) watching your idol crash and burn in a public performance.

People walking out on poor performance also has the broader effect of discouraging performers who cannot deliver from trying to perform (and/or discouraging promoters trying to trout out performers who cannot deliver).
Do you really believe that? do you really believe that people walked out to avoid 'suffering heartache' on her behalf. Oh, my. What will people do to convince themselves that a boor is really a saint in disguise.
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Axtremus
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I don't not think they are "boors" for walking out on a poor performance. I think it is entirely reasonable, understandable, and quite human for any person to walk out on a poor performance (or sleep through a boring one, for that matter). I don't think Julie Andrews or any other artists/performance should be exempt from such embarrassment if/when they fail to deliver on a performance.

Would you please try not to stretch from "not boors" to "good upstanding people" and "saints in disguise." You usually don't do that sort of straw-man building.
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No, I always do it. It's quite fun.

And I disagree. Walking out on a performance is usually reserved for hideous situations or making a statement. I hardly think the former applies, and if it's the latter, they're boors.
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May 11 2010, 11:13 AM
Walking out on a performance is usually reserved for hideous situations or making a statement.
That's the crux of our disagreement, then.

I think it's fine to walk out of a poor performance.
You think walking out should be reserved for hideous situations or making a statement.

Don't see the need to bridge that difference, but glad to have it identified nonetheless.
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OK. But then you need to realize (which you may not have) that if you walk out in the middle of a performance you may be thought of in ways that you had not considered. Now, of course, a single person getting up may be presumed to have needed a pee break! But in this situation, if noticeable numbers of people got up it would have been interpreted by many (Patty for instance) as an infuriating act of disrespect.
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Mikhailoh
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It's rude. Period. If you want to leave, wait for intermission.
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Aqua Letifer
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May 11 2010, 10:30 AM
It's pretty fishy if you ask me.
An old professor of mine had a habit of saying, "that's interesting" when he heard something so outlandishly stupid that even pointing out its idiocy would be a waste of time. Best you can do is just move along, sometimes.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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I know. I got it. Reminds me of an old joke.
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Aqua Letifer
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Ah, word. ^_^
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Mikhailoh
May 11 2010, 11:25 AM
It's rude. Period. If you want to leave, wait for intermission.

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Rude to the performers, rude to other attendees. Save it for intermission.
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Axtremus
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Reminds me of a disagreement that Jeff (used to be Jeffrey) and Jolly had.

Jolly thought that it's good manners, polite, even a Southern charm to have a rapport with the check-out clerk, despite long lines at the check-out counters. Jeff(rey) said screw it, it's plain rude and inconsiderate to be chatting away while holding up those waiting in line wasting their time.
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Aqua Letifer
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Patty's thread title's right on.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Axtremus
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musicasacra
May 11 2010, 11:30 AM
Mikhailoh
May 11 2010, 11:25 AM
It's rude. Period. If you want to leave, wait for intermission.

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Rude to the performers, rude to other attendees. Save it for intermission.
"Rude to the performers" -- nah, it's the performers' fault for not delivering to begin with.

"rude to other attendees" -- reasonable consideration, and one that I often keep in mind myself; depends on the surroundings, if one can get up and leave without disrupting others, I'd have no problem with it.

"wait for intermission" -- all else being equal, that would be a waste of time and, if the performance is poor enough, an act of masochism.

And I said all the above as some one who has actually given poor performances on stage, in public.
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Aqua Letifer
May 11 2010, 11:42 AM
Patty's thread title's right on.
I agree. :D
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kenny
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I think no matter how bad she was I'd have suffered through it out of respect to Julie Andrews' lifetime body of work . . . that is, as long as she didn't just sit there and pick her nose and scratch herself in appropriately like state hospital reject.
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Wow, that's all I can say. $150 for a ticket to go see a concert????? People in London must be overpaid. I once paid $100 each for my wife and I to go and see the Eagles, and I though that was expensive. At least they played for almost 3 hours straight with no warmup band. (We were late and missed the first 2 songs - I mean, who expects there to be no warmup band?)

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I too think it is rude to walk out on a performance at any time other than intermission. There may be other people who are enjoying the performance and they have every right not to have their experience ruined by noisy hordes of people leaving.

That being said, I still think if you can't sing anymore you shouldn't be on a stage trying to sing.

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kenny
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Andrews speaking before the concert.
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May 11 2010, 10:23 AM
you're all asshats for even arguing about something silly as this!!! :lol2:
You're an asshat for calling everyone else an asshat! :lol2:

Edited by OperaTenor, May 12 2010, 02:08 PM.


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15 March 2010 - Ivo Pogorelich recital. Pogorelich was my IDOL. Got a free ticket. In the program: Chopin Nocturne and Sonata 3, Liszt - Mephisto Walz, Ravel Gaspard de la nuit, Sibelius Valse Triste. He showed in a large white shirt (the luggage got lost). The young page turner dropped the scores on the floor and returned them upside down, Pogorelich turned the pages himself. I could not identify what he was playing. The man at my side was deep asleep and snoring. A few people wandered if he started the recital or was he still warming the piano. I left at the intermission. Half of the people, at least, left at the intermission. The boy lost his mind !!! I was very sad....
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