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Palin: "Trust the Oil Industry"
Topic Started: May 3 2010, 02:29 PM (940 Views)
ivorythumper
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Axtremus
May 5 2010, 02:05 PM
FIFY :wave:
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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John D'Oh
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What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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1hp
May 5 2010, 08:07 AM
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Do you think that's a bad idea?


Are you kidding me? Just wait until you're suffering from the hottest summer day, and your air conditioners are turned off. This country is fast approaching 3rd world status. People talk about attracting the best and brightest from other countries - why would anyone want to come here if everything is rationed?

I hesitate to comment in some threads like this, but I did want to call attention the above statement.

1hp, to say that the US is approaching 3rd world status cannot be farther from the truth. I believe (hope) that it was said with "your tongue in your cheek", as you always have very good postings.
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don't worry TG, he's just another pissed off conservative doing his best chicken little routine, since that's all the power they have nowadays. The power to instill fear.


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No, it wasn't said tongue in cheek. Perhaps people don't remember the rolling blackouts that California went through a few years back? Since then, one only has to monitor websites like caiso.com on a hot summers day to see how perilously close we come to running out of supply. Locally there's more talk about removing old power stations because they're an eye sore, than there is about building new ones; and I'm sure this is repeated around the country. Routing new transmission systems is a joke. Sempra has been trying to route one out to the desert (you know, where they want to install big solar plants), and the lawsuits against it just keep on coming.

Add the shenanigans of companies like Enron, and the situation gets worse. Remember, when electricity is in short supply you can charge more for it. Wall Street likes that kind of stuff.

Further, show me a comprehensive energy plan put in place by any member of the White House. A plan that many would say should carry the same strategic importance as maintaining a strong military, and a secure food source. It just doesn't exist. And history shows that without sound planning, events will eventually catch up with you.

The only good news is that the economic slow down of the last couple of years has put a damper on our consumption.


NS, you work for the government, correct?

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Nobody's Sock
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Just browsing the local paper and came across an interesting article, yes, on my federal government approved coffee break :silly:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/05/1613583/ding-now-jerk-that-knee.html

"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
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Axtremus
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1hp
May 6 2010, 08:02 AM
No, it wasn't said tongue in cheek. Perhaps people don't remember the rolling blackouts that California went through a few years back? Since then, one only has to monitor websites like caiso.com on a hot summers day to see how perilously close we come to running out of supply. ...
See, the rationing of electrical power supply didn't make you leave, nor did it stop the immigrants from going there. Hence rationing will not make people not want to come to America.

Q.E.D. :P
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Residential Smart grid could be a tough sell


.................Combining and summarizing the implications of these reports, it looks like most consumers don’t even want a utility to manage their energy use unless it pays generously for the privilege. They also don’t have much trust that a big company, like a utility, can do it right.

Then there’s the privacy issue - consumers are wary of anyone monitoring their household activities – even if it’s just keeping track of appliance use.

They’re also suspicious that, whatever is done, it probably isn’t for the consumer benefit anyway. Somebody’s making a buck, and it sure isn’t the little guy.

Needless to say, the majority of the respondents probably won’t be swayed by a Department of Energy argument that residential Smart Grid gadgets are good for people and good for the planet. And the offer to enable folks to monitor their household electrical usage, as joyous and intriguing as that may be, will soon wear thin. Like watching paint dry.


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apple
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I received a mailer yesterday paid for by the "Yes on 16" people (i.e. PG&E). Prop 16 is an iinitiated constitutional amendment to require a two-thirds vote before a government agency can form either municipal utilities, or community wide clean electricity districts called Community Choice Aggregators (CCAs). Why? Maybe PG&E knows more than we do about just how bad it's about to get and is financing (in a big way) a pre-emptive strike against municipal power utilities. Soft-headed warmists in California may make the situation even worse here than it will get in the rest of the country. California was totally raped by the energy deregulation farce and criminal price fixing several years ago and I don't think round two will be received well here. PG&E has every right to be nervous. Hopefully Californians will see this initiative for the farce it is and defeat it.
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i'm all for capitalism.. but privately owned companies, tho subject to regulation do have a goal in mind.


The problem is, we don't have capitalism. What we have is a mish mash of half baked regulations that prevent real market forces from driving supply and demand. Not too mention the "too big to fail" mindset, now that we know the government will bail out big business when they fail while trying to screw everyone.
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Obama says federal government shares the blame for BP oil spill: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37267.html

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Acknowledging that “the system failed and it failed badly,” President Barack Obama called for a stop to finger-pointing over who is at fault for the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico and for the first time put a share of the blame on the federal government.

The president’s admission of a breakdown in government procedures comes amid reports that federal regulators were lax in oversight and issuing permits for drilling in the Gulf. He slammed the “cozy relationship” oil companies have with the Minerals Management Services, and said the Interior Department will embark on a “top-to-bottom reform” of the agency and conduct a review of the environmental procedures for drilling.

“I understand that there are legal and financial issues involved, and a full investigation will tell us what happened,” Obama said in remarks after receiving an update on the spill. “With that, there’s enough responsibility to go around, and all parties should be willing to accept it. That includes, by the way, the federal government.”
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