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I Just Ordered My iPad ...
Topic Started: Mar 28 2010, 05:09 AM (1,245 Views)
QuirtEvans
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For free!

Well, not exactly free. I've been saving American Express Membership rewards points for a long time. Usually, I don't spend 'em because the prices aren't a very good deal. Well, today, everything is 30% off. Might as well see what they have, I thought.

They have the iPad!

So, it's ordered. For all you late adopters, I'll let you know how I like it when it arrives.
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Oooooh.. new toys!!!! Cool.

I have a zillion Amex points too. I've never used them for anything but air travel. I'll have to look!
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Mar 28 2010, 06:20 AM
Oooooh.. new toys!!!! Cool.

I have a zillion Amex points too. I've never used them for anything but air travel. I'll have to look!
Don't go to Membership Rewards. The selection there is tiny.

The place you want to go is shopAmex.com. That used to be their shopping site, but they've converted it over, so that everything is bought with points now. (I don't know why they haven't coordinated this with Membership Rewards yet.) Just about anything you could possibly want is there, from cooking stuff, to hundreds of different types of computers, to really high grade (birds eye maple) furniture, etc.

From now until Wednesday, everything is 30% off, so it's a good time to use points.

Here's the link to the iPads:

https://www01.extra.americanexpress.com/SR.aspx?sortcol=Ranking&searchstring=iPad
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So Quirt, which one did you get?


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QuirtEvans
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The one with 3G. I want to see how that is, and, since you don't have to do a contract, but can go month-to-month, I figured it's worth trying.

If it's really good, and if I don't mind lugging it around with me, I'll cancel my iPhone and use the monthly savings on that to pay for the data plan on the iPad.
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Yeah. To me, there seems to be a vast gulf of utility between 3G and non-3G. I'll be standing by to see how it fares with you.


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Tempting.. oh so tempting.
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So, what will you use the iPad for? What makes this thing better than whatever else is out there?

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It's really cool, that's why. :lol2:

Do I need one? Heck no. But I don't need a piano or a cellphone or a flatscreen tv or any of that stuff. I just want it.
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Mar 28 2010, 08:14 AM
So, what will you use the iPad for? What makes this thing better than whatever else is out there?
Here's what makes it more useful, in my book.

The built-in 3G. For either $15 or $30 a month.

If it works the way it is supposed to work ... and, granted, I'm taking a leap of faith here ... that will mean that, everywhere, I will have a full-size browser with the internet with me, at all times.

No more squinting at my iPhone.

Plus, I can switch back to Verizon, if I want, and ditch the iPhone. Fewer dropped calls on Verizon, in this area. Better reception.
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I want one also but I'm going to wait a bit. I want to get some reviews first and play with it first hand.
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Way cool, Quirt. I look forward to your review. Just saw a picture of it for the first time; the screen is MUCH larger than I imagined, considering the price. You could almost eat dinner off it.
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Cool Quirt - let us know! Take some pics too :thumb:
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Yeah, I'm interested too. Tell us after you trial it Quirt. Pics would be good. I want to gauge how large this is to use & carry. I'm getting real tired of magnifying & navigating around the screen of my iPhone. Fine for those with good eyes & patience, but not for me.
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I will, but it will be a while.

Even if you order it directly through the Apple store, they still don't have a shipping date. All it says on the Apple website is "late April".
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Some iPad related stories:

Lots of sales: http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/29/analyst-2010-ipad-shipments-could-reach-8-10-million/

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Fortune reports on a new research note from analyst Katy Huberty at Morgan Stanley citing iPad suppliers now forecasting shipments of 8-10 million iPads for calendar year 2010, up from previous estimates of around 5 million. The report notes, however, that shipments are not necessarily equal to sales, as some of that production will remain in distribution channels at the end of the year. Consequently, Huberty maintains a sales estimate of 6+ million iPads for the year.

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According to Huberty, investors who are bearish on the iPad say it lacks a "killer app." Apple's near-term market, she counters, is the sub-$800 notebook computer market (30 million units in the U.S. and 120 million units globally). Longer term, she expects the books, magazines, video and iPad-optimized apps currently in the works to broaden that market.


We'll help you set it up: http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/29/apple-confirms-ipad-launch-plans-announces-personal-setup-service-and-workshops/

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Apple today issued a press release formally confirming that the iPad will launch this Saturday in the U.S. Wi-Fi iPad models will be available in all 221 U.S. Apple retail stores and at "most" Best Buy locations beginning at 9:00 AM.

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"iPad connects users with their apps and content in a far more intimate and fun way than ever before," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "We can't wait for users to get their hands and fingers on it this weekend."

Apple also announced that all customers making iPad purchases in its retail stores will receive free Personal Setup service, which includes assistance from Apple staff with setting up email accounts on the device, loading applications, and other tasks. Apple retail stores are also set to begin hosting iPad workshops this Saturday, offering customers ways to get more out of their devices.


We don't need no stinkin' Flash: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/03/29/brightcove_converts_time_nyt_flash_video_to_html5_for_ipad.html
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Brightcove converts Time, NYT Flash video to HTML5 for iPad

By Sam Oliver
Published: 10:10 AM EST

Brightcove's partnerships with The New York Times and Time magazine will allow HTML5 to seamlessly replace Adobe Flash video content on the publications' Web sites for compatibility with Apple's iPad.

The Cambridge, Mass.-based online video platform announced Monday its new Brightcove Experience for HTML5, a framework for publishing and delivering interactive and advertising-supported Web video. The platform is available free to the more than 1,000 Brightcove customers in 42 countries.

Two major clients of Brightcove are The New York Times and Time magazine, both of which are reportedly already using the product. The platform provides support for intelligent device detection, playlist rendering, and playback of H.264 encoded video content.

Monday's announcement means it's possible that video in the Adobe Flash format could be converted to HTML5 automatically for high-profile Web sites, perhaps as soon as the device's April 3 U.S. launch. The company said its clients can now use the tool to build iPad-ready Web sites, and in the next year the platform will be expanded to support customization and branding of the player environment, advertising, analytics, social sharing and other capabilities.

"Our customers want to be able to deliver their video content to every screen without sacrificing the quality, interactivity and monetization capabilities they have come to expect from the Brightcove platform," Jeremy Allaire, Brightcove chairman and chief executive officer, said in a press release. "The Brightcove Experience for HTML5 fills the gap between the current playback capabilities of the emerging standard and what our customers need to operate successful online video businesses."

Brightcove


Last week it was revealed that U.S. TV network CBS is testing HTML5 for video playback on the iPad. The network is just the latest in a number of Web sites looking for an alternative to the Adobe format, which has come under increased scrutiny since it was revealed the iPad, like the iPhone and iPod touch, would not support Flash.

In January, Google added HTML5 support for YouTube, the Internet's most popular streaming video destination. Virgin America also abandoned Flash for its new mobile Web site, in order to allow iPhone users to check in for flights.

Allegedly labeled a "CPU hog" by Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, Flash has been a target of the iPad maker, which has not allowed the Web format on its iPhone OS powering the iPad, iPhone and iPod touch. Though Jobs reportedly said it would be "trivial" for Web developers to switch from Flash, some employees of leading publishers recently said they believe such a move wouldn't be so simple.

For more on Apple and Flash, and why the Web format will likely never be available on the iPhone OS, read AppleInsider's three-part Flash Wars series.
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In January, Google added HTML5 support for YouTube, the Internet's most popular streaming video destination. Virgin America also abandoned Flash for its new mobile Web site, in order to allow iPhone users to check in for flights.

Allegedly labeled a "CPU hog" by Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, Flash has been a target of the iPad maker, which has not allowed the Web format on its iPhone OS powering the iPad, iPhone and iPod touch. Though Jobs reportedly said it would be "trivial" for Web developers to switch from Flash, some employees of leading publishers recently said they believe such a move wouldn't be so simple.

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In January, Google added HTML5 support for YouTube, the Internet's most popular streaming video destination. Virgin America also abandoned Flash for its new mobile Web site, in order to allow iPhone users to check in for flights.

Allegedly labeled a "CPU hog" by Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, Flash has been a target of the iPad maker, which has not allowed the Web format on its iPhone OS powering the iPad, iPhone and iPod touch. Though Jobs reportedly said it would be "trivial" for Web developers to switch from Flash, some employees of leading publishers recently said they believe such a move wouldn't be so simple.


Since they said it twice, I guess they really really meant it.
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More: http://gizmodo.com/5504402/how-the-ipad-is-already-reshaping-the-internet-without-flash
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The iPad doesn't run Flash. If your website uses Flash, it won't play well on the iPad. Turns out, a lot of people want their sites to look pretty on the iPad. So the internet's already starting to look different.

One of the more interesting effects of the iPhone was that it drove a ton of websites to format their content for the phone in at least of two ways, and often both: iPhone-optimized sites, with more finger-friendly navigational elements that look almost app-like, and actual iPhone apps. We're seeing a repeat with the iPad, though the adjustment appears to be less about the screen size than its lack of Flash support, and there's the fact a lot of sites will be ready on day one. (Though before we go any further, let's be clear: Flash is sticking around, for many reasons, regardless of Apple's opinion of it.)

The NYT, WSJ and NPR are all following the twin attack: They're launching iPad-tuned homepages that dispense with Flash entirely, with layouts designed to be held in your hand, like the front page of a newspaper, and they're coming out with iPad apps. The WSJ app will run $17.99 a month—$215 a year—a seemingly ridiculous sum, since subscribing to both the print and online editions is a mere $140. We don't know what it looks like. Interestingly, while we've seen the most of NYT's iPad app out of anyone (presumably), we don't know how much it's going to cost. NPR's app is a free iPadded version of its iPhone app.

There's also the video services, which are, in a way, basic internet infrastructure. YouTube, of course, has been playing with HTML5 for a bit, as has Vimeo, and both have served up iPhone OS-tailored video for a while. Brightcove, another big video service, used a by lot of magazine sites (Wired, Slate, Time and NYT), is is making its HTML5 powers more widely known, with the "Brightcove Experience for HTML5," specifically in response to the iPad, with the NYT and Time listed as customers using Brightcove HTML5 edition, meaning they'll have iPad-ready video at the get-go.

Not to mention sites like TED now offering Flashless renditions for iPhone OS devices. And CBS, the only major network not to be on the Hulu boat, is cleverly testing an HTML5 version of its video site, so even though Hulu won't work on the iPad right now, CBS will be. (I imagine it won't be very long at all before we do see Hulu though.)

It's interesting, to say the least, that a device promising to be the best browsing experience—cue Scott Forestall crazy eyes— is in fact reshaping the internet. You could argue it's for the better, moving sites away from proprietary formats and heavy, resource-sucking designs to more open standards, and more efficient layouts that are easier to use (as many have, convincingly). And it's not like Apple hasn't been remaking the web already—they've been hugely involved in web standards with their work on the WebKit rendering engine, which powers Safari, Chrome, and most every decent mobile browser around. In fact, you could argue, vis-a-vis WebKit Apple's essentially defined the standards for mobile browsing.

There's not much of a choice for site designers to follow this, either. As John Gruber points out, if you care about people on iPhone OS devices—to be clear, that includes the iPad—being able to use your site, you're going to redesign it, and "if you don't think people using iPhone OS devices are an important segment of your intended audience, you're probably wrong."

The reason the iPad could have a more pronounced effect on the internet than the iPhone actually really is simply because it's bigger. The challenge of best displaying your content on the iPhone wasn't simply making sure you had a Flash-less site—it was fitting it all into a 3.5-inch screen, reducing it to the utter essentials to fit the way people use their phones, a task that might've gone beyond a mobile-optimized site in many cases. With the iPad, two of the biggest restrictions—the tighter screen, those smaller windows of time—aren't there, so content producers very well might not need an app to fit their content onto the iPad. In other words, they really can just build a site instead of an app, which is why the iPad might have a more profound effect on the internet than the iPhone.

Especially if Apple manages to sell a bajigagillion of them. But hey, we'll see! In the meantime, there sure are lots of Flashless, HTML5 sites popping up, and we're bound to hear about more.

I find it amazing that Apple is able to push technology this way. In 1997, when the original iMac came out, and there was no floppy drive, everyone had a hissy fit (myself included) about the lack of removable storage.
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Mar 29 2010, 07:17 AM

I find it amazing that Apple is able to push technology this way. In 1997, when the original iMac came out, and there was no floppy drive, everyone had a hissy fit (myself included) about the lack of removable storage.
The reason is simple: it isn't a fair competition.

If you run Flash, you don't get the iPhones. If you run HTML5, you get everything. There's nothing out there that says, "screw you, HTML5, if you want to work on ME it's Flash or nothing."

Jobs is able to make the decision for the whole internet only because no one cares enough about Flash to build an only-Flash device. Except Adobe, of course, but they don't make mobile technology. Maybe they should have.
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The First Five Things You'll Do With Your iPad

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Jobs is able to make the decision for the whole internet only because no one cares enough about Flash to build an only-Flash device. Except Adobe, of course, but they don't make mobile technology.


That's a laugh. You're talking about Adobe and Flash only devices. Isn't jobs the one who builds closed hardware products that really only run OS's supplied by Apple? At least flash is supported by pretty much all other OS's out there EXCEPT Apple, not to mention it runs on pretty much all other NON APPLE machines.
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Looks like there's problems with the iPad WiFi! ANd rather than fix the problem Apple wants you to make changes to your router - wonder if all those open WIfi access point providers are up for that?

Apple confirms WiFi issues with iPad



Apple admits some iPad users may have trouble staying connected to the internet, confirming reports from customers who purchased the new devices over the weekend.

The first generation of iPads accesses the internet using Wi-Fi networks. "Under certain conditions, iPad may not automatically rejoin a known Wi-Fi network after restart or waking from sleep," says a statement on the Apple (NASDAQ: aapl) support page.

The company says this can happen with "some third party Wi-Fi routers that are dual-band capable", and when both of those networks share the same network name, or when each band has a different security setting.

Wired reports that the dual-band routers are those compatible with both 2.4-GHz and 5-GHz spectrum bands, and usually both bands work as one network with the same name and password.

Rather than fix the iPad, Apple is suggesting customers fix their routers. Apple recommends users separate the two networks and "create separate Wi-Fi network names to identify each band--Example: Add a G to the 802.11b/g network name and an N to the 802.11n network name."

It also says users should make sure both networks "use the same security type (WEP, WPA, WPA2, etc)." If that doesn't work, Apple recommends that customers reset the network settings on the iPad.

Some iPad users have complained their internet connections are weak, even in areas where the Wi-Fi connection remained strong for iPhones. "My new iPad experiences great difficulty remembering/connecting to my home network," tweeted David Chen in Boston.

"Signal is spotty as we moved away from router," said Wall Street Strategies retail analyst Brian Sozzi. A second version of the iPad coming out at the end of this month will allow users to connect to the internet using 3G cellular telephone networks.
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It's just good practice to separate the two anyway.

I have done that since first getting a dual band router.

There is no "usually" about it. It's all about how one configures the router.
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