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Another Roman Catholic Church Cover-Up of Child Abuse Thread
Topic Started: Mar 16 2010, 04:37 AM (529 Views)
QuirtEvans
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Ireland's senior Roman Catholic, Cardinal Sean Brady, said Monday he would not resign despite admitting he helped the church collect evidence against a child-molesting priest – and never told police about the crimes.

Brady, as a priest and Vatican-trained canon lawyer in 1975, said he interviewed two children about the abuse they suffered at the hands of the Rev. Brendan Smyth. He said both children were required to sign oaths promising not to tell anyone outside the church of their allegations.

Smyth went on to molest and rape scores of other children in Ireland, Britain and the United States before British authorities in neighboring Northern Ireland demanded his arrest in 1994. The Irish government of the day collapsed amid acrimony over why Smyth was not quickly extradited to Belfast.

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Brady said it was the responsibility of his diocesan bishop, as well as the leader of Smyth's separate Catholic order of priests, to tell police. But he said the church didn't do this because of "a culture of silence about this, a culture of secrecy."

"Yes, I knew that these were crimes," Brady said. "But I did not feel that it was my responsibility to denounce the actions of Brendan Smyth to the police. Now I know with hindsight that I should have done more, but I thought at the time I was doing what I was required to do."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/16/sean-brady-catholic-leade_n_500307.html
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Gee thanks quirt.

You know why everyone calls you a pathetic little twerp?

Because of posts like this.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Mar 16 2010, 05:29 AM
Gee thanks quirt.

You know why everyone calls you a pathetic little twerp?

Because of posts like this.
Scumbag apologist. At best.

Go crawl back under your rock.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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I'm not apologizing, I'm just calling you what you are asking to be called.

You are a pathetic little twerp.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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:rolleyes2:
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Mar 16 2010, 05:54 AM
I'm not apologizing, I'm just calling you what you are asking to be called.

You are a pathetic little twerp.
And I'm just pointing out to everyone that you're a scumbag apologist.

Maybe more, but that would be just speculating. We could, for example, speculate about why you defend child molesters. No need to go down that road, though. We have ample evidence that you're a scumbag apologist.

Whew, I'm glad we got that over with.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Mar 16 2010, 06:18 AM
Copper
Mar 16 2010, 05:54 AM
I'm not apologizing, I'm just calling you what you are asking to be called.

You are a pathetic little twerp.
And I'm just pointing out to everyone that you're a scumbag apologist.

Maybe more, but that would be just speculating. We could, for example, speculate about why you defend child molesters. No need to go down that road, though. We have ample evidence that you're a scumbag apologist.

Whew, I'm glad we got that over with.

As always, the pathetic little twerp.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Mar 16 2010, 06:38 AM
QuirtEvans
Mar 16 2010, 06:18 AM
Copper
Mar 16 2010, 05:54 AM
I'm not apologizing, I'm just calling you what you are asking to be called.

You are a pathetic little twerp.
And I'm just pointing out to everyone that you're a scumbag apologist.

Maybe more, but that would be just speculating. We could, for example, speculate about why you defend child molesters. No need to go down that road, though. We have ample evidence that you're a scumbag apologist.

Whew, I'm glad we got that over with.

As always, the pathetic little twerp.
And as always, a scumbag.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Copper: it's hard to realize as you get older that people you've been taught to trust with your immortality are really just more or less an organized child sex ring. It's a devastating betrayal to realize that people you confess your transgressions to have transgressions that far exceed any wrong you could perpetrate.

So, the gut reaction is to deny it and lash out at people like me or Quirt.





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Mar 16 2010, 05:29 AM
You know why everyone calls you a pathetic little twerp?
Just like everyone calls me a fat jerk?

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The priest got suspended yesterday (article from NYT). The big story is that he continued to work around boys and girls for 30 years after his conviction.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/16/world/europe/16church.html





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Mar 16 2010, 07:06 AM

So, the gut reaction is to deny it and lash out at people like me or Quirt.

I deny nothing at all.

That has nothing to do with Mr. Evans.

The pathetic little twerp.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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it's hard to realize as you get older that people you've been taught to trust with your immortality are really just more or less an organized child sex ring.


A bit of an over-stretch there, John.
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Well they are organized about it. They only suspended the guy yesterday after he got outed by a yelling parishioner in a church service on Sunday.





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Mar 16 2010, 07:39 AM
Big John
Mar 16 2010, 07:06 AM

So, the gut reaction is to deny it and lash out at people like me or Quirt.

I deny nothing at all.

That has nothing to do with Mr. Evans.

The pathetic little twerp.
A scumbag's opinion of me is of little matter to me.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Mar 16 2010, 08:14 AM

A scumbag's opinion of me is of little matter to me.

That's the fourth time you've written about that opinion in this thread alone!

Wow, what if it did matter?
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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QuirtEvans
Mar 16 2010, 08:14 AM
Copper
Mar 16 2010, 07:39 AM
Big John
Mar 16 2010, 07:06 AM

So, the gut reaction is to deny it and lash out at people like me or Quirt.

I deny nothing at all.

That has nothing to do with Mr. Evans.

The pathetic little twerp.
A scumbag's opinion of me is of little matter to me.
Wait, I'm confused. Is he a scumbag, or an apologist for scumbags (which was my interpretation of scumbag apologist, I suppose that it could also mean that he's a scumbag that is also an apologist, but in the context of the thread, I took it as an apologist for scumbags.)?

I suppose he could be a scumbag and an apologist for other scumbags as well.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Mar 16 2010, 08:59 AM
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Mar 16 2010, 08:14 AM
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Mar 16 2010, 07:39 AM
Big John
Mar 16 2010, 07:06 AM

So, the gut reaction is to deny it and lash out at people like me or Quirt.

I deny nothing at all.

That has nothing to do with Mr. Evans.

The pathetic little twerp.
A scumbag's opinion of me is of little matter to me.
Wait, I'm confused. Is he a scumbag, or an apologist for scumbags (which was my interpretation of scumbag apologist, I suppose that it could also mean that he's a scumbag that is also an apologist, but in the context of the thread, I took it as an apologist for scumbags.)?

I suppose he could be a scumbag and an apologist for other scumbags as well.
Thank you for giving me an opportunity to clarify.

In this case, he's both a scumbag and an apologist.

He's always a scumbag. In this case, because of the subject matter and his stance and his reflexive defenses of the Catholic Church and attacks against those who point out the Church's failings, he's also an apologist. Since I don't think the entire Church is filled with scumbags, he's an apologist for both scumbags and non-scumbags.

I hope that clarifies things. And thanks again for asking.
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Sure thing, of course, this opens up some more questions.

Why scumbag? Why not scumcan or scumjar. Both would be much better at holding scum. Is a scumbag paper or plastic? I would think that if it was paper, it wouldn't hold up well at long, before the paper was overly saturated with scum and would start leaking.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Mar 16 2010, 09:20 AM
Why scumbag?
Why not scumcan or scumjar.
Both would be much better at holding scum.
Is a scumbag paper or plastic?
I would think that if it was paper, it wouldn't hold up well at long, before the paper was overly saturated with scum and would start leaking.
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Mar 16 2010, 09:10 AM

In this case, he's both a scumbag and an apologist.

Apologist?

I'm calling you a pathetic little twerp.

No apology involved.

You are a pathetic little twerp.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Mar 16 2010, 09:33 AM
QuirtEvans
Mar 16 2010, 09:10 AM

In this case, he's both a scumbag and an apologist.

Apologist?

I'm calling you a pathetic little twerp.

No apology involved.

You are a pathetic little twerp.
One has to wonder why you are so very angry about people criticizing child molesters. Why you feel the need to pursue the subject so vigorously. It's almost as if you have a personal interest.
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Mar 16 2010, 07:10 AM
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Mar 16 2010, 05:29 AM
You know why everyone calls you a pathetic little twerp?
Just like everyone calls me a fat jerk?

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Clumsy with wine maybe, but not a fat jerk. :whome:
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Mar 16 2010, 09:36 AM
One has to wonder why you are so very angry about people criticizing child molesters.
Are you certain they are child molesters? Copper may honestly and rightly believe otherwise. He may believe that they are simply ephebophilic; it is possible, given the infiltration of such types into the hierarchy between the 50's and 80's.
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Mar 16 2010, 09:36 AM
One has to wonder why you are so very angry about people criticizing child molesters. Why you feel the need to pursue the subject so vigorously. It's almost as if you have a personal interest.

You are a pathetic little twerp.

The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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