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| Pope Benedict protected child molester | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 13 2010, 01:42 AM (4,473 Views) | |
| jon-nyc | Mar 13 2010, 01:42 AM Post #1 |
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Cheers
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/world/europe/13pope.html?hp |
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| Axtremus | Mar 13 2010, 05:19 AM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Say what? |
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| Big John | Mar 13 2010, 06:46 AM Post #3 |
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that's pretty sad. they really need a cultural change -- especially since they've taken such great pains to recruit new priests and turn their image around. |
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| Mark | Mar 13 2010, 07:14 AM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It would seem that the courts are as much to blame for not holding these monsters responsible as anyone else. |
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| JoeB | Mar 13 2010, 08:49 AM Post #5 |
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It's interesting how someone could read the above statement that absolves Pope Benedict of responsibility in the specific case and use it as evidence that:
Maybe he did, but not according to the source you cited. |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 13 2010, 08:57 AM Post #6 |
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Cheers
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He transferred a child molester to 'therapy'. The only therapy he deserved was a cold dark cell with a roommate named Zed. Its far more interesting to see you give this scumbag a pass. |
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| JoeB | Mar 13 2010, 09:09 AM Post #7 |
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"Transferring him to therapy" is the most he could do. Civil authorities should have charged, tried, and convicted the molester. I'm sure many people, yourself included, miss the good old days of the Grand Inquisitor and the many quaint methods for obtaining confessions, but those days are truly gone. Insofar as giving him a pass, I merely pointed out that the article you posted stated the exact opposite of what you said it did. |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 13 2010, 09:27 AM Post #8 |
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Cheers
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It did no such thing, Joe. It says he approved the transfer. He should have turned him in to the authorities. If he did that today in many places he'd do time. |
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| Renauda | Mar 13 2010, 09:39 AM Post #9 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I can cut the Archbishop some slack for the green light on the therapy while the priest was on the suspended sentence. However, failure to defrock him or at the very least, cloister him following subsequent offences and prosecution comes across as negligence. |
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| apple | Mar 13 2010, 09:50 AM Post #10 |
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one of the angels
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i am ashamed of the church. if this was nipped in the bud, and i'm assuming it's been going on for centuries, there wouldn't be a problem today. of course, stuff like this has happened in many venues. my mother essentially grew up as an orphan and she said she was abused in 4 of the 6 homes she stayed in.. wouldn't go into detail, but geez, that is a high incidence. she also told me that the orphanage she lived in during the school year, run by nuns was abusive, altho not in a sexual sense. children were made to stand in the playyard with their wetted sheets draped over their heads. children should be protected, not the abusers. Edited by apple, Mar 13 2010, 09:52 AM.
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| ivorythumper | Mar 13 2010, 09:58 AM Post #11 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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It is far more interesting that you want the man to be brutalized for his sins and his crimes, than healed of his sickness. |
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| blondie | Mar 13 2010, 09:58 AM Post #12 |
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Bull-Carp
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I agree with you apple. My mom had stories too [her parents were orphans in Mass.] . Then there was the humiliating stuff we went through with the nuns & priests in school. Not nice. Nip things in a bud. Yeah, this is what should happen. |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 13 2010, 10:02 AM Post #13 |
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Cheers
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The timeline is different than that, he sent him to therapy instead of turning him into the authorities in 1980. The suspended sentence wasn't until he repeated the offense. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/03/12/world/europe/20100312-abuse-timeline.html?ref=europe |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 13 2010, 10:03 AM Post #14 |
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Cheers
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So tell me, IT, in your mind did the Pope do the right thing? |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 13 2010, 10:05 AM Post #15 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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I think the diocese should have notified the authorities for prosecution. Not doing so, however, does not equal "protecting a child molester". |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 13 2010, 10:06 AM Post #16 |
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Cheers
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Wow, talk about living in a bubble. Do these guys have any idea how they are viewed by people they didn't brainwash as children? |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 13 2010, 10:07 AM Post #17 |
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Cheers
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Of course it does. If you discover you neighbor molesting a child, do you call the cops or send him to Munich? If you fail to do the former you'll likely have committed a crime (in many jurisdictions anyway, maybe not in heavily-Catholic places like AZ) |
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| Copper | Mar 13 2010, 10:08 AM Post #18 |
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Shortstop
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Islam has a way to deal with people who engage in same sex activities. Maybe the Catholics could learn from them. |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 13 2010, 10:10 AM Post #19 |
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Cheers
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I didn't ask about the diocese, I asked about the Pope. |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 13 2010, 10:12 AM Post #20 |
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Cheers
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Next up from the Vatican: "Zee Pope vas just following ohhrders." |
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| kenny | Mar 13 2010, 10:15 AM Post #21 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Celibacy doesn't work. |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 13 2010, 10:22 AM Post #22 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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You are asking about the Pope? The Pope is an office that Ratzinger was not occupying at the time. |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 13 2010, 10:27 AM Post #23 |
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Cheers
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I can't say I'm surprised at your reaction. Its exactly what I thought it would be. |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 13 2010, 10:28 AM Post #24 |
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Cheers
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Contrast that with RZ's reaction: "If he was involved in this (I assume he was, based on the article) he should resign -- as should all of the bishops and Cardinals who have done the same thing. They should all be sent to monasteries and allowed to live out their lives in prayer and doing penance for what they have done to the victims and the Church." |
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| Big John | Mar 13 2010, 11:19 AM Post #25 |
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For someone who can't disseminate a zygote from a child waiting for a school bus, I'm amazed that you'd even attempt to split hairs here. |
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