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stupid scammers; dashed my hopes
Topic Started: Mar 9 2010, 11:18 AM (438 Views)
LWpianistin
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I've been applying for jobs in Charleston, and I just got an e-mail from one pretty much telling me I had the job, but I needed to give a credit score....they left a website, so I of course checked it out (who wouldn't?). They said they had an office located on Jasper St, Farmville. I know this town pretty well now, and I've never seen a Jasper St. There are also no jobs listed in the paper for this company, as it says there are jobs in Farmville.

LAME!! I was so excited!!! :weeping: :comphit:

Good thing I'm smart and caught it.
And how are you today?
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Luke's Dad
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Have you tried googling the company to see if it even exists? I wouldn't dismiss it just because they are not advertising locally for jobs.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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sue
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Uh, a potential employer wanting to know your credit score? <_< I don't think so.

File that one in the circular bin. Good for you for checking them out.

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Mar 9 2010, 12:17 PM
Uh, a potential employer wanting to know your credit score? <_< I don't think so.

File that one in the circular bin. Good for you for checking them out.

That's quite legit and even prevalent in employment practices these days. Most places won't hire somebody without checking their credit these days.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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sue
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Luke's Dad
Mar 9 2010, 12:19 PM
sue
Mar 9 2010, 12:17 PM
Uh, a potential employer wanting to know your credit score? <_< I don't think so.

File that one in the circular bin. Good for you for checking them out.

That's quite legit and even prevalent in employment practices these days. Most places won't hire somebody without checking their credit these days.
Wow. Ok, sorry.

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LWpianistin
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Umm...yep. Checked the website. Like I said, Jasper street doesn't exsist in Farmville, and I'm sure I would have seen the company by now. I did google them, though. It came up with "Did you mean Legistica?" when I typed 'Logistica'or whatever it was called. It wasn't really the credit that threw me off, it was after checking the website.

Just checked more google: someone else got the exact same e-mail from them with some slight changes to it. I may reply to the e-mail, just to see what happens.
Edited by LWpianistin, Mar 9 2010, 12:33 PM.
And how are you today?
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sue
Mar 9 2010, 12:22 PM
Luke's Dad
Mar 9 2010, 12:19 PM
sue
Mar 9 2010, 12:17 PM
Uh, a potential employer wanting to know your credit score? <_< I don't think so.

File that one in the circular bin. Good for you for checking them out.

That's quite legit and even prevalent in employment practices these days. Most places won't hire somebody without checking their credit these days.
Wow. Ok, sorry.

I'm sorry too. I feel it's a horrible practice. Yes, there are some sensitive jobs and positions where I could understand, but most of the jobs requiring it is BS. If somebody has poor credit and is trying to fix it, how can they do it if nobody will hire them?
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Luke's Dad
Mar 9 2010, 04:12 PM
sue
Mar 9 2010, 12:22 PM
Luke's Dad
Mar 9 2010, 12:19 PM
sue
Mar 9 2010, 12:17 PM
Uh, a potential employer wanting to know your credit score? <_< I don't think so.

File that one in the circular bin. Good for you for checking them out.

That's quite legit and even prevalent in employment practices these days. Most places won't hire somebody without checking their credit these days.
Wow. Ok, sorry.

I'm sorry too. I feel it's a horrible practice. Yes, there are some sensitive jobs and positions where I could understand, but most of the jobs requiring it is BS. If somebody has poor credit and is trying to fix it, how can they do it if nobody will hire them?
Heck, even grocery stores and big box stores demand job applicants' urine for drug tests. That's the world we live in.
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Aqua Letifer
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Axtremus
Mar 9 2010, 04:16 PM
Heck, even grocery stores and big box stores demand job applicants' urine for drug tests. That's the world we live in.
I'd like to hear why you think that's in any way related to checking a credit score.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Aqua Letifer
Mar 9 2010, 04:36 PM
Axtremus
Mar 9 2010, 04:16 PM
Heck, even grocery stores and big box stores demand job applicants' urine for drug tests. That's the world we live in.
I'd like to hear why you think that's in any way related to checking a credit score.
Unnecessary prerequisites for a job?
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Mar 9 2010, 04:36 PM
Axtremus
Mar 9 2010, 04:16 PM
Heck, even grocery stores and big box stores demand job applicants' urine for drug tests. That's the world we live in.
I'd like to hear why you think that's in any way related to checking a credit score.
Comparing the intrusiveness of screenings employers do on job applicants.
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Mar 9 2010, 07:54 PM
Aqua Letifer
Mar 9 2010, 04:36 PM
Axtremus
Mar 9 2010, 04:16 PM
Heck, even grocery stores and big box stores demand job applicants' urine for drug tests. That's the world we live in.
I'd like to hear why you think that's in any way related to checking a credit score.
Unnecessary prerequisites for a job?
No comparison. For many jobs, drug testing is not unnecessary. If you're putting somebody behind the wheel of a vehicle or controls of a machine, you need to know whether their's a chance that person may be impaired. You are personally liable in such a situation. Then there's the whole aspect of them willingly and knowingly breaking the law. If a potential employee is in your knowledge breaking that law, you also have to consider what other laws or rules that person is willing to break.

BTW, most employers aren't worrying about pot in a drug test, they are primarily concerned about more serious drugs. That's a big part of the reason why there are so many myths about how to beat a drug test. It's not because they worked, it's because the marijuana user thought it worked because they didn't get caught in the test. The reality is that most of the time they did get caught but the employer didn't see it as an issue.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Riley
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Mar 9 2010, 08:08 PM
Riley
Mar 9 2010, 07:54 PM
Aqua Letifer
Mar 9 2010, 04:36 PM
Axtremus
Mar 9 2010, 04:16 PM
Heck, even grocery stores and big box stores demand job applicants' urine for drug tests. That's the world we live in.
I'd like to hear why you think that's in any way related to checking a credit score.
Unnecessary prerequisites for a job?
No comparison. For many jobs, drug testing is not unnecessary. If you're putting somebody behind the wheel of a vehicle or controls of a machine, you need to know whether their's a chance that person may be impaired. You are personally liable in such a situation.
Sure, but there are also jobs where what someone does on their own time isn't relevant.
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Riley
Mar 9 2010, 08:15 PM
Luke's Dad
Mar 9 2010, 08:08 PM
Riley
Mar 9 2010, 07:54 PM
Aqua Letifer
Mar 9 2010, 04:36 PM
Axtremus
Mar 9 2010, 04:16 PM
Heck, even grocery stores and big box stores demand job applicants' urine for drug tests. That's the world we live in.
I'd like to hear why you think that's in any way related to checking a credit score.
Unnecessary prerequisites for a job?
No comparison. For many jobs, drug testing is not unnecessary. If you're putting somebody behind the wheel of a vehicle or controls of a machine, you need to know whether their's a chance that person may be impaired. You are personally liable in such a situation.
Sure, but there are also jobs where what someone does on their own time isn't relevant.
First, did you completely miss the second half of my post?

Second, you're right. Activities after hours that have no bearing on one's work and workplace shouldn't be relevant. Illegal drug use is relevant, as it can and often will have an impact on work and the workplace.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Riley
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Mar 9 2010, 08:22 PM
Riley
Mar 9 2010, 08:15 PM
Luke's Dad
Mar 9 2010, 08:08 PM
Riley
Mar 9 2010, 07:54 PM
Aqua Letifer
Mar 9 2010, 04:36 PM
Axtremus
Mar 9 2010, 04:16 PM
Heck, even grocery stores and big box stores demand job applicants' urine for drug tests. That's the world we live in.
I'd like to hear why you think that's in any way related to checking a credit score.
Unnecessary prerequisites for a job?
No comparison. For many jobs, drug testing is not unnecessary. If you're putting somebody behind the wheel of a vehicle or controls of a machine, you need to know whether their's a chance that person may be impaired. You are personally liable in such a situation.
Sure, but there are also jobs where what someone does on their own time isn't relevant.
First, did you completely miss the second half of my post?
This?

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Then there's the whole aspect of them willingly and knowingly breaking the law. If a potential employee is in your knowledge breaking that law, you also have to consider what other laws or rules that person is willing to break.


I don't believe recreational drug use would have much, if any, correlation to one's ethics.
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Riley
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Mar 9 2010, 08:22 PM
Illegal drug use is relevant, as it can and often will have an impact on work and the workplace.
Then that is the point at which it becomes relevant.
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Mar 9 2010, 08:26 PM
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Mar 9 2010, 08:22 PM
Riley
Mar 9 2010, 08:15 PM
Luke's Dad
Mar 9 2010, 08:08 PM
Riley
Mar 9 2010, 07:54 PM
Aqua Letifer
Mar 9 2010, 04:36 PM
Axtremus
Mar 9 2010, 04:16 PM
Heck, even grocery stores and big box stores demand job applicants' urine for drug tests. That's the world we live in.
I'd like to hear why you think that's in any way related to checking a credit score.
Unnecessary prerequisites for a job?
No comparison. For many jobs, drug testing is not unnecessary. If you're putting somebody behind the wheel of a vehicle or controls of a machine, you need to know whether their's a chance that person may be impaired. You are personally liable in such a situation.
Sure, but there are also jobs where what someone does on their own time isn't relevant.
First, did you completely miss the second half of my post?
This?

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Then there's the whole aspect of them willingly and knowingly breaking the law. If a potential employee is in your knowledge breaking that law, you also have to consider what other laws or rules that person is willing to break.


I don't believe recreational drug use would have much, if any, correlation to one's ethics.
It does have a correlation to an employer. If somebody is willing to disregard a law that they see as trivial and foolish for their own gratification, then the employer has to question which of the corporate policies and rules will this person be willing to break for their own gratification in the workplace.

You don't see it as a big deal. That's fine. You are not in the position of making decisions on a regular basis in your workplace that not only affects yourself, but countless others working around you. You haven't had the experience of seeing just how much money and productivity is wasted because of a hire that comes back and bites you in the ass.

I've made hiring choices in the past, and yes I would overlook indications that the applicant was using marijuana. But that's my limit. Even then, if I've got two equally qualified candidates for the same job, and one of the two comes back positive for marijuana, then I'm likely taking the other candidate. Sorry if you don't care for it. I've been on your side and understand how you feel. Now I've been on the other side of the desk, and I understand their position as well.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Mar 9 2010, 08:27 PM
Luke's Dad
Mar 9 2010, 08:22 PM
Illegal drug use is relevant, as it can and often will have an impact on work and the workplace.
Then that is the point at which it becomes relevant.
:thumb:

Same for any bad credit history. If it does not affect your job performance in any way, it is of no one's business but your own.
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Mar 9 2010, 09:56 PM
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Mar 9 2010, 08:27 PM
Luke's Dad
Mar 9 2010, 08:22 PM
Illegal drug use is relevant, as it can and often will have an impact on work and the workplace.
Then that is the point at which it becomes relevant.
:thumb:

Same for any bad credit history. If it does not affect your job performance in any way, it is of no one's business but your own.
I agree with you regarding credit history, that is taking things too far for most positions. There are a very few number of positions where I could see it playing some role, but overall it's way too far.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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if you could find a contact, get a place, have a financial cushion and get an immediate job working nites for instance in a restaurant.. you could do it.

i used to move all the time on a whim.
it behooves me to behold
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Mar 9 2010, 08:08 PM
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Mar 9 2010, 07:54 PM
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Mar 9 2010, 04:36 PM
Axtremus
Mar 9 2010, 04:16 PM
Heck, even grocery stores and big box stores demand job applicants' urine for drug tests. That's the world we live in.
I'd like to hear why you think that's in any way related to checking a credit score.
Unnecessary prerequisites for a job?
No comparison. For many jobs, drug testing is not unnecessary. If you're putting somebody behind the wheel of a vehicle or controls of a machine, you need to know whether their's a chance that person may be impaired. You are personally liable in such a situation. Then there's the whole aspect of them willingly and knowingly breaking the law. If a potential employee is in your knowledge breaking that law, you also have to consider what other laws or rules that person is willing to break.

BTW, most employers aren't worrying about pot in a drug test, they are primarily concerned about more serious drugs. That's a big part of the reason why there are so many myths about how to beat a drug test. It's not because they worked, it's because the marijuana user thought it worked because they didn't get caught in the test. The reality is that most of the time they did get caught but the employer didn't see it as an issue.
You are wrong.

I know a Walmart shelf stocker who was fired for a failed drug test, indicating marijuana usage. His job required no usage of any kind of motor vehicle or heavy equipment.

Walmart is a pretty big employer, you may have heard.
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That is so wrong.

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Mar 10 2010, 08:59 AM
That is so wrong.

Well I mean, it's illegal. Not in a Jaywalking sort of way, either.

I totally disagree with that sort of thing too but I'm just sayin'. And if you're going to decide to smoke up, you gotta be careful with your job. I've worked for three employers that had random drug screenings. I know a couple people who have gotten fired from failing them.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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there was just something on the news yesterday -- I think at ABCs website about this exact scam -- phishers posing as employers who get your personal info because you want a job so bad.

Be careful!!!





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Mar 10 2010, 08:45 AM
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Mar 9 2010, 04:36 PM
Axtremus
Mar 9 2010, 04:16 PM
Heck, even grocery stores and big box stores demand job applicants' urine for drug tests. That's the world we live in.
I'd like to hear why you think that's in any way related to checking a credit score.
Unnecessary prerequisites for a job?
No comparison. For many jobs, drug testing is not unnecessary. If you're putting somebody behind the wheel of a vehicle or controls of a machine, you need to know whether their's a chance that person may be impaired. You are personally liable in such a situation. Then there's the whole aspect of them willingly and knowingly breaking the law. If a potential employee is in your knowledge breaking that law, you also have to consider what other laws or rules that person is willing to break.

BTW, most employers aren't worrying about pot in a drug test, they are primarily concerned about more serious drugs. That's a big part of the reason why there are so many myths about how to beat a drug test. It's not because they worked, it's because the marijuana user thought it worked because they didn't get caught in the test. The reality is that most of the time they did get caught but the employer didn't see it as an issue.
You are wrong.

I know a Walmart shelf stocker who was fired for a failed drug test, indicating marijuana usage. His job required no usage of any kind of motor vehicle or heavy equipment.

Walmart is a pretty big employer, you may have heard.
Which part is wrong? Where I said most? Where I said many? I hadn't realized that Walmart=All or even most.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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