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About that "Christmas Bomber"; who was provided an attorney
Topic Started: Feb 2 2010, 10:32 PM (363 Views)
Axtremus
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Follow-up here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8494775.stm

Apparently he is co-operating and is continuing to provide useful intelligence.

Imagine that -- we stand by our Constitutional ideals and still effectively fight terrorism.
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JBryan
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At the pleasure of a terrorist who is providing information long after its usefullness has expired.
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There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


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Mikhailoh
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And at the expense of the US taxpayer who had to fly his family in from Nigeria. So we spent more money and found out things that are likely of no value anyway.
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JBryan
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On top of that, leaking to the press the fact that he is cooperating does harm to our ability to catch these guys. The only purpose for it could only have been to attempt to put a smiley face on a major screw up. Things keep getting worse.
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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Copper
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Axtremus
Feb 2 2010, 10:32 PM

we stand by our Constitutional ideals

Some of them - the convenient ones.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Mikhailoh
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JBryan
Feb 3 2010, 04:44 AM
On top of that, leaking to the press the fact that he is cooperating does harm to our ability to catch these guys. The only purpose for it could only have been to attempt to put a smiley face on a major screw up. Things keep getting worse.
Yep. One screwup after another.
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I'm sure we could have gotten much more useful info had he been tortured a bit in Abu Ghraib.
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Mikhailoh
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What?
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kathyk
Feb 3 2010, 06:29 AM
I'm sure we could have gotten much more useful info had he been tortured a bit in Abu Ghraib.
Yes, I am sure we could have but since we don't torture people a meeting with experienced interrogators with follow ups would have been immensely preferable to the lackadaisical approach that was actually employed.
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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Copper
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Feb 3 2010, 06:29 AM
I'm sure we could have gotten much more useful info had he been tortured a bit in Abu Ghraib.

Right, that's what the republicans wanted to do.

And they didn't really care if he talked, they just wanted the torture.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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JBryan
Feb 3 2010, 06:39 AM
kathyk
Feb 3 2010, 06:29 AM
I'm sure we could have gotten much more useful info had he been tortured a bit in Abu Ghraib.
Yes, I am sure we could have but since we don't torture people a meeting with experienced interrogators with follow ups would have been immensely preferable to the lackadaisical approach that was actually employed.
And you know the approach was lackadaisical because you were in the room?

I haven't read any news stories that describe how he was actually interrogated. Can you point me to some?
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JBryan
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Anything involving strictly local FBI agents instead of the new fancy dandy interrogation unit supposedly enacted by Obama is definitely lackadaisical. It is fairly obvious that no one who questioned him was experienced in the matter. It should also be pointed out that 50 minutes is hardly sufficient to exhaust him as a source of intelligence.
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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John Galt
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JBryan
Feb 3 2010, 06:49 AM
It should also be pointed out that 50 minutes is hardly sufficient to exhaust him as a source of intelligence.
Based on his bomb-detonation skills, about 10 minutes seems right to exhaust him as a source of intelligence..

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I'm sure if he would have been yanked off the plane face-down on the tarmac and shot in the back of the head, I wouldn't have given a sh!t.
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John Galt
Feb 3 2010, 09:46 AM
JBryan
Feb 3 2010, 06:49 AM
It should also be pointed out that 50 minutes is hardly sufficient to exhaust him as a source of intelligence.
Based on his bomb-detonation skills, about 10 minutes seems right to exhaust him as a source of intelligence..

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I thought I heard that he had a flight delay, which caused his diaperbomb to get soaked with sweat for an extra day. Which could be why he couldn't torch off the chemical when he wanted.
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