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| President Surrenders the Moon to China & Russia | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 1 2010, 10:35 AM (406 Views) | |
| Copper | Feb 1 2010, 10:35 AM Post #1 |
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Shortstop
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/space/02/01/nasa.budget.moon/
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| QuirtEvans | Feb 1 2010, 10:36 AM Post #2 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Well, at least we know the part of the budget Copper wouldn't cut. I'm sure he'll be happy to see an increase in his taxes to fund this program. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Feb 1 2010, 10:37 AM Post #3 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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That ****ing sucks.
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| Aqua Letifer | Feb 1 2010, 10:37 AM Post #4 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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Actually, yes, I think the space program is a freaking fantastic long term fix for the economy. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Feb 1 2010, 10:38 AM Post #5 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Me too, but some people don't believe in government R&D. Let the private sector do it, they say. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Mikhailoh | Feb 1 2010, 10:39 AM Post #6 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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I disagree. As much as I support the exploration of space, I'd like to see it done smartly, efficiently. I'm not at all sure what good a moon colony would do us. I suppose it would teach us how to set a colony up, but we are a long wayfrom the travel technology to allow us to do so anywhere else of any value. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Feb 1 2010, 10:44 AM Post #7 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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I'm certain that at least nine out of ten daily household items we all use that came from the space race were things nobody thought we'd get from the space race. Especially the folks who said "I'm not sure what good going to the moon would do us." And about that technology... if we wanted to land humans on Mars, right now, starting A.S.A.P., we could do it. No problem. We just don't want to spend the money, it has nothing to do with our technological limitations. We even have our pick of different methods to get us there. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Feb 1 2010, 10:44 AM Post #8 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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If they actually did, that wouldn't be a problem. The problem is that the truly fantastic innovations came out of the space race by accident, from an "anything goes" kind of R&D mentality. The private sector's too "goals up front" oriented for that sort of thing. Private R&D is just fine but I think as far as space is concerned, the gummint has the potential to do it better. |
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| Copper | Feb 1 2010, 10:44 AM Post #9 |
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Shortstop
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Sure that's just as true today as it was 50 years ago. But since we took the leap 50 years ago we have reaped the benefits politically and economically many times over since then. Give me a tax increase and make it a big one. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Mikhailoh | Feb 1 2010, 10:48 AM Post #10 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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There is also no particular reason to go to Mars, other than we can. I'd prefer they try a moon colony to a Mars one. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| ivorythumper | Feb 1 2010, 10:49 AM Post #11 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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I don't see that argument as persuasive for future investment. We have basically mastered that technology, and presumably the major breakthroughs have been accomplished. Sure we can continue to tweak things -- I'd like better tasting Tang and Space Food Sticks -- but I think the law of diminishing returns needs to be considered if you are arguing on the basis of return on investment. |
| The dogma lives loudly within me. | |
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| Luke's Dad | Feb 1 2010, 10:50 AM Post #12 |
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Emperor Pengin
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I don't believe we actually could develop better technology to allow us to travel without a permanent facility on the moon. |
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| Aqua Letifer | Feb 1 2010, 10:51 AM Post #13 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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Cold War motivations aside, that was our public relations reason for going to the moon. And directly due to that endeavor we now have aero bike wheels, cheap but effective fire fighter equipment, cordless power tools, ear thermometers, enriched baby food, failsafe flaghlights, invisible braces, medical imagers, satellite dishes, scratch-resistant glasses, smoke detectors and a hundred other things. You wanna talk about American innovation, we cannot in our wildest dreams imagine the advancements (and money) we can make from going to Mars. C'mon man, imagine some. ![]() |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Feb 1 2010, 10:52 AM Post #14 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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Wholly different ballgame, going to Mars. Mark my words, we go visit the Red Planet in person and we're going to be the world leader in biotech and agroscience before the astronauts make it home. |
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| ivorythumper | Feb 1 2010, 11:02 AM Post #15 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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aren't we already? ![]() just askin' |
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| Aqua Letifer | Feb 1 2010, 11:07 AM Post #16 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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Eh, depends on certain areas. I wouldn't say we sweep the board. (This is 2004 knowledge I'm going off, who knows, things might have really changed since then.) Never hurts to get more ahead though, eh? Seriously, those two fields are where I really think a Mars mission would have a lot to offer us, on top of everything else. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Improviso | Feb 1 2010, 11:19 AM Post #17 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I'm not agreeing to a tax increase unless I get a Landspeeder out of the deal.
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Identifying narcissists isn't difficult. Just look for the person who is constantly fishing for compliments and admiration while breaking down over even the slightest bit of criticism. We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. | |
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| Frank_W | Feb 1 2010, 11:29 AM Post #18 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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We have a surplus of astronauts at Guantanamo Bay. "Should your mission be successful, you will be set free..."
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| Mark | Feb 1 2010, 01:37 PM Post #19 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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If we were not out there playing TEAM AMERICA FVCK YEAH! in almost every country on the planet Maybe we could afford to do the things that really make this or any country great. Like exploration. |
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___.___ (_]===* o 0 When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells | |
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| ivorythumper | Feb 1 2010, 01:38 PM Post #20 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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TAFY!!!!
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| Mikhailoh | Feb 1 2010, 01:39 PM Post #21 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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TA FTW. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Luke's Dad | Feb 1 2010, 02:17 PM Post #22 |
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Emperor Pengin
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Coming again, to save the mother f*&$ing day yeah, |
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