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| Mikhailoh | Jan 26 2010, 10:55 AM Post #51 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Me too. All Jolly might do is shoot you. Big whoop. There are many fates worse than death. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| George K | Jan 26 2010, 10:56 AM Post #52 |
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Nobel laureate and former Enron adviser Paul Krugman wets himself over the proposal:
(Get it? "Wets himself" ) |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Copper | Jan 26 2010, 11:48 AM Post #53 |
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Shortstop
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Remember when that used to be worth something? |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| George K | Jan 26 2010, 05:23 PM Post #54 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwVmpY6CWko “It’s not a hatchet. It’s not a scalpel. It’s a Q-tip. It’s a fraud. This is a minuscule amount. Remember it excludes defense, homeland security, veteran’s affairs. It excludes all of the entitlements which are 60% of the budget. And, it excludes stimuli past and future, the nearly two-thirds of the trillion dollar stimulus that has not been spent. All of that is excluded. It excludes the trillion that would have been spent on health care if it would have been passed. What it is is a $15 billion reduction in a year 2011 in which the CBO has just announced we’re going to have a deficit of $1.35 trillion. It’s a rounding error. It’s lunch money.” |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| George K | Jan 26 2010, 06:08 PM Post #55 |
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I just saw an interview with Krauthammer who, basically, calls it kabuki. Here's his reasoning: The budget for 2009 included huge, huge increases for the "discretionary" parts. Usually, agencies see an increase of their budget of 3 - 4%. Last year, the EPA saw an increase in their budget of 30%. Thirty Per Cent. Other agencies and programs saw similar (15-30%) increases. So, by invoking a "freeze", what the administration has frozen the increases it enacted in the last year. In other words, the so-called "freeze" codifies the increases of the last year, and freezes the increases. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Luke's Dad | Jan 27 2010, 06:08 AM Post #56 |
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Emperor Pengin
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So in other words, last year they got seven years worth of increases, and now they have to stick at the same budget they should have had in 2016 for the next three years. Smart. Can I take back the points I awarded Obama for this move? |
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| JBryan | Jan 27 2010, 06:12 AM Post #57 |
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I am the grey one
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In other words, a drop in the bucket. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Luke's Dad | Jan 27 2010, 06:16 AM Post #58 |
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Emperor Pengin
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More like using the bucket to bail out the boat by bailing the front end, and emptying the bucket in the back end. |
| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| George K | Jan 27 2010, 05:24 PM Post #59 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhy-UwLq178 |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 27 2010, 05:27 PM Post #60 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Oh yeah, you guys have been SCREAMING at the top of your lungs that he needs to control spending. Several people here have called for a freeze, or across-the-board cuts. So, he does just that. And then you have the balls to criticize him for doing it? |
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| George K | Feb 1 2010, 09:54 AM Post #61 |
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What Does The Federal Budget Freeze Look Like? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMH9QZdjS2Y |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| QuirtEvans | Feb 1 2010, 09:58 AM Post #62 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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OK, then, step up to the plate. What else would you freeze? Social Security? Medicare? Maybe you'd default on the interest payments on the national debt? Please, instead of standing back and taking shots, feel free to explain what other areas you'd cut or freeze. (Mark, that was not an invitation for you to post a long internet list again. It was a question for George.) |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| George K | Feb 1 2010, 10:03 AM Post #63 |
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First of all, it's not a shot. Secondly, it's an accurate description of what the so called "freeze" (which is not really a freeze) will accomplish. Thirdly, it demonstrates that much of what Obama points out as freezes will do little to nothing to cut the debt/deficit (did you see today's numbers by the way). Fourthly, did you watch vid? I think there's a third of a trillion of savings by stopping the "stimulus", of which only half (if not less) has been paid out. Third of a trillion? Hell, that's more than I make in two years. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Luke's Dad | Feb 1 2010, 10:09 AM Post #64 |
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Emperor Pengin
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Well, the video itself gave a suggestion. It also wouldn't be a bad idea if they froze the spending at 2008 levels, rather than the inflated 2009 levels. I've already stated that I would then go after raising the retirement age for SS and Medicare. I would also (going to be unpopular amongst some here) institute a tax break on general income taxes, but might raise FICA a couple of points. The few extra points on FICA would go towards an individual retirement account for the employee, that could be invested at their discretion. And yes, I would also work on a real health care reform plan aimed at reducing costs, and would attack fraudulent medicare claims. |
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| JBryan | Feb 1 2010, 10:12 AM Post #65 |
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I am the grey one
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Repaid TARP funds should be used to pay down debt rather than as a piggy bank for Congress to stuff their mitts into. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Mikhailoh | Feb 1 2010, 10:22 AM Post #66 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Defense should absolutely not be spared the ax. Even if all they really accomplished at first was to cut enough waste (and I am sure there is a boatload) to pay for better pay and benefits for soldiers and veterans it would be a worthwhile goal. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| QuirtEvans | Feb 1 2010, 10:30 AM Post #67 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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On that, I completely agree. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Feb 1 2010, 10:33 AM Post #68 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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First, I disagree. Second, it's accurate to say that birds fly south in the winter. It's equally relevant to this discussion. Well, your point is slightly more relevant, I'll give you that. Third, he can only do what he can do. For decades, the largest portion of the federal budget has been entirely outside anyone's control, unless you're willing to touch the third rail. Are you? Fourth, no. I took a look at the picture and decided it was pure snark, with political motivation, and that I had better things to do. Fourth part two, I shudder to think what the unemployment rate would be like without the stimulus. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Feb 1 2010, 10:36 AM Post #69 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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Yeah but how many of those jobs are sustainable? |
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