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| The Passionate Followers of the Religion of Peace; strike again | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 10 2010, 07:38 AM (986 Views) | |
| Piano*Dad | Jan 10 2010, 07:38 AM Post #1 |
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Bull-Carp
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Burn the churches in Malaysia. Shoot them up in southern Egypt. Proprietary use of Allah |
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| Mikhailoh | Jan 10 2010, 08:15 AM Post #2 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Sadly, I think millions of people are going to die before this wretched anachronism is done for. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Piano*Dad | Jan 10 2010, 08:28 AM Post #3 |
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Bull-Carp
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This is likely to continue for much if not all of the next century. Nations with exploding populations of young males are a likely fountain of violence. Couple this demographic nightmare with the current revival of the worst aspects of an already aggressive faith and you have a recipe for ugly violence. |
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| jon-nyc | Jan 10 2010, 08:36 AM Post #4 |
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Cheers
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Hmmm, P*D, I'm trying to figure out how to turn this into an abortion thread. ![]() Seriously, though, its pretty sad. Having said that, its not entirely clear to me why Christians in a non-Arabic speaking country would want to use that word. |
| In my defense, I was left unsupervised. | |
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| George K | Jan 10 2010, 08:44 AM Post #5 |
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Finally
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In a related story: 'Jihad' jitters at Met |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Piano*Dad | Jan 10 2010, 08:53 AM Post #6 |
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Bull-Carp
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How 'bout that Harry Reid.
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| Mikhailoh | Jan 10 2010, 08:55 AM Post #7 |
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Our schools cannot have prayers, but the Met removes pictures of Mohammed because Islam forbids it. What is wrong with this picture? Wake up, folks. This is not freedom of religion. It's tyranny of a minority. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Renauda | Jan 10 2010, 09:10 AM Post #8 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I agree and would like to add that we will witness a peculiarly nasty backlash against muslims in the West. They will be targetted and in some cases persecuted. |
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| kenny | Jan 10 2010, 09:15 AM Post #9 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Don't blame the group. Blame the individuals. |
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| John D'Oh | Jan 10 2010, 09:19 AM Post #10 |
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MAMIL
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Sadly, I think this is true. There's already been a bit of a resurgence of a very nasty little splinter in British politics, somewhat reminiscent of Sir Oswald Mosley's little band of thugs, albeit with a slightly different focus. British National Party |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| John D'Oh | Jan 10 2010, 09:21 AM Post #11 |
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MAMIL
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That reasoning may apply when the group is 'muslims', however it doesn't work when the group is 'Al Qaeda' or 'The British National Party' or 'The IRA'. |
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| kenny | Jan 10 2010, 09:24 AM Post #12 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Well, Duh. ![]() I'm talking about Islam, a very large group just like Christianity. Not all Christians molest children. |
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| John D'Oh | Jan 10 2010, 09:28 AM Post #13 |
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MAMIL
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You just said 'group', and you've made some remarks about groupism over the years, for example defending Scientology as being just like any other religion, hence my confusion. Some groups actually are bad. |
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| kenny | Jan 10 2010, 09:30 AM Post #14 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Again, Duh. Groupism is like PCism, taking it to the extreme is dumb. Duh Dude. Just Duh. |
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| Mikhailoh | Jan 10 2010, 09:32 AM Post #15 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Please do not insult this group's intelligence by trying to equate the molestation of children due to individuals' moral failing with the death, destruction and misery that Islamic extremists as a group have sought to wreak on their own people and ours. |
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| kenny | Jan 10 2010, 09:33 AM Post #16 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Both are wrong. In both cases the crimes of individuals are applied to the entire group by bigots. Bigotry against Islam is alarming and wrong. |
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| Mikhailoh | Jan 10 2010, 09:37 AM Post #17 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Kenny. that comparison does not hold up in any relevant way. Child molesters do not form groups and recruit other individuals to carry out their missions for political and religious goals. I've never heard a Christian say they molested a child in God's name. |
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| Larry | Jan 10 2010, 09:38 AM Post #18 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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When a group becomes violent by nature of the group, then it *should* be persecuted. It *has* to be persecuted. I'm sure some members of the KKK were nice fellows individually, but as part of their group they were not, nor was their group. The only way to put an end to their activities was to deal with the group. Islam is no different. Many muslims are fine people, I'm sure. But their religion is foul, and the mindset that stems from it is crippled. It must either reform, or *be* reformed. |
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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| John D'Oh | Jan 10 2010, 09:48 AM Post #19 |
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MAMIL
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You're the one who tried to claim that Scientologists are no different from Roman Catholics. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| Piano*Dad | Jan 10 2010, 10:08 AM Post #20 |
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Bull-Carp
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Please, no more discussions of Kenny's inconsistency. Look, if an entire group shares a basic outlook, and that outlook contains deeply problematic strictures for how to deal with 'others' then it's fair game to examine that outlook critically. We've been doing this with Christianity for centuries. It's old hat now. Try doing it with Islam and you will experience the full force of a fatwa that some young male puffed up on Allah may execute .... literally. There are some deeply troubling (to me, at least) aspects of that faith that DO motivate millions of people to behave in very violent and superior ways. Islam's bloody borders are no myth to me, or to millions of Christians who have to live with the daily threat of Jihad as the backdrop of their lives. |
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| Renauda | Jan 10 2010, 10:43 AM Post #21 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Not only Christians but other faiths and philosophies as well. Islam's fundamental problem is that it purports to be an immutable and absolute truth locked in an eternal struggle with human nature. A recipe for totalitarian terror. |
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| kathyk | Jan 10 2010, 12:17 PM Post #22 |
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Pisa-Carp
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Fundamentalist Christians make the same claims. The irony here is that Christianity and Islam both share the same Abrahamic roots based on the belief in the same monotheistic God. Isn't "Allah" just the generic Arabic word for God? |
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| kenny | Jan 10 2010, 12:19 PM Post #23 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I said I respect all religions equally and I'm not a member of any of them. A religion's popularity does not make one more groovy than another in my book. If I thought any was groovy I'd join it. But I realize here at TNCR I'm alone holding this perceptive. |
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| Piano*Dad | Jan 10 2010, 12:25 PM Post #24 |
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Kathy, Your multicultural welcome wagon is on display again! I'm afraid I don't see the facile comparison between Christianity, even of the fundamentalist stripe, and Islam as it is currently practiced by a large slice of the muslim population. In the US, fundamentalists aren't routinely engaging in communal butchering to assert dominance. That sort of behavior lost its appeal around the middle of the seventeenth century, which was also about the time that Christians began to question in a serious way the underpinnings of faith. Even those who have maintained faith have for the most part lost the will to dominate through it. Proselytization is persuasion. I can accept that. Dhimmitude is not. As much as I may disagree with Larry's more extreme views of Islam, I'm convinced that that faith needs to undergo a serious reformation. That effort must come from within, but it's difficult to engage in a reform movement when the very act of thinking independently is a capital offense (officially, at the hands of a mullah, or unofficially at the hands of an enraged mob spewing blood lust hatred). |
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| kathyk | Jan 10 2010, 12:28 PM Post #25 |
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Pisa-Carp
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I see it as just a matter of timing. Christianity on the whole has finally outgrown its age of institutional intolerance (e.g. the inquisition). As you well know, Christianity went through some serious reformations. I tend to think that Islam is just a bit behind the curve.
Edited by kathyk, Jan 10 2010, 12:29 PM.
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