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Did You Just Get a New LCD TV? Here Comes 3-D
Topic Started: Jan 6 2010, 04:20 AM (726 Views)
sue
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HOLY CARP!!!
John D'Oh
Jan 6 2010, 05:33 AM
The best thing about this is that it should drive the price of regular HD TV's down even further.
works for me :)
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Axtremus
Jan 6 2010, 09:06 AM
RosemaryTwo
Jan 6 2010, 08:54 AM
I watch a lot of news and the idea of catching Rick Sanchez or Sean Hannity in 3D in my living room, frankly, terrifies me.
Vistoria's Secret TV special, on the other hand ...
Regardless of which hand, TMI.
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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JoeB
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I think 3D for gaming might be an easier sell. Gaming is a more involved activity than watching TV in the first place, and the benefits are more immediately obvious. A flight simulator, driving game or first person shooter in 3D would be freaking awesome.


It will also work much better. The 3D method in use now, presenting two different images to the two eyes, is a pretty poor imitation of 3D. It's pretty much only good for jump out at you type of effects. The newer method utilizes a cameras and other position sensors to determine the position of the viewers head and where his eyes are pointing then adjusts the display accordingly. This allows the user to move his head slightly to see behind an object. Stereovision 3D is pretty artificial and works poorly or not at all for people with a dominant eye. The newer type of 3D is very natural and works even for people who are blind in one eye. On the downside, It does require more video processing power and presently is limited to 1 viewer. A movie using this method will require much more data than either a flat movie, or a stereographic representation but the realism should be awesome.
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Luke's Dad
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Axtremus
Jan 6 2010, 06:11 AM
2010 Prediction : More pr0n will be filmed and released in 3D.
The end of every scene will result in alot of guys ducking and covering...
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Jan 6 2010, 09:23 AM
Well CRT to HDTV...clear difference. Depends if you watch a lot of sports and movies, though.
We cut the cord with cable/satellite almost six years ago. Television is not a high priority in our lives. I know there's a difference, I was being tongue-in-cheek.


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Jan 6 2010, 09:55 AM
Axtremus
Jan 6 2010, 06:11 AM
2010 Prediction : More pr0n will be filmed and released in 3D.
The end of every scene will result in alot of guys ducking and covering...
:lol:
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Jan 6 2010, 09:18 AM
Still don't see any reason to part with my CRT...

:shrug:
Troglodyte. :lol2:
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Piano*Dad
Jan 6 2010, 11:55 AM
OperaTenor
Jan 6 2010, 09:18 AM
Still don't see any reason to part with my CRT...

:shrug:
Troglodyte. :lol2:
It's his patriotic duty to help Obama's recovery plan for the economy to go out and buy a Japanese or Korean TV!!!!
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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CHAS
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Want to see a 90 meter ski jump filmed with a helmet cam in 3D tv.
Then I will know how much I want one.
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Larry
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I have a 27" Sylvania that's about 15 years old or so, that takes about two minutes for the picture to show up.
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George K
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Larry
Jan 6 2010, 01:39 PM
I have a 27" Sylvania that's about 15 years old or so, that takes about two minutes for the picture to show up.
(whose got the oldest TV?)

We got a 19 inch Toshiba with an analog dial as a wedding present from my parents. That was in 1977. Still have it, and it still works.
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Jan 6 2010, 11:55 AM
OperaTenor
Jan 6 2010, 09:18 AM
Still don't see any reason to part with my CRT...

:shrug:
Troglodyte. :lol2:
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:yes:

Ours is a 27" Zenith that's ~10-12 years old. We bought it used from a friend for $45. Works like a champ.
Edited by OperaTenor, Jan 6 2010, 02:09 PM.


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jon-nyc
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Funny, just today a friend told me that ESPN is debuting 3D programming for this years World Cup.
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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Mikhailoh
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I have an off-brand department store 19" I bought in 84 that still works just fine. A Technika I think it is.
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QuirtEvans
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When my ex and I broke up, she took the 19 inch TV I'd had since 1977. She just replaced it last week. It still worked, but the kids finally wore her down in their desire for a flashy new LCD.

It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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George K
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QuirtEvans
Jan 6 2010, 06:23 PM
When my ex and I broke up, she took the 19 inch TV I'd had since 1977. She just replaced it last week. It still worked, but the kids finally wore her down in their desire for a flashy new LCD.

In all honesty, I should have commented that the tuner "dial" was not working as well as it should. However, if you could tune it to Channel 3, the dish worked just fine.
A guide to GKSR: Click

"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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Axtremus
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"Tuner dial." :lol:

The first color TV I had had twelve buttons for twelve channels. There was a tray that you could pull out, and in there were twelve tuning dials, one for each channel.
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Axtremus
Jan 6 2010, 06:29 PM
"Tuner dial." :lol:

The first color TV I had had twelve buttons for twelve channels. There was a tray that you could pull out, and in there were twelve tuning dials, one for each channel.
Pfft...

I had one of these:

"Space Commander:"

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In 1956 Robert Adler developed "Zenith Space Command", a wireless remote.[3] It was mechanical and used ultrasound to change the channel and volume. When the user pushed a button on the remote control it clicked and struck a bar, hence the term "clicker". Each bar emitted a different frequency and circuits in the television detected this noise. The invention of the transistor made possible cheaper electronic remotes that contained a piezoelectric crystal that was fed by an oscillating electric current at a frequency near or above the upper threshold of human hearing, though still audible to dogs. The receiver contained a microphone attached to a circuit that was tuned to the same frequency. Some problems with this method were that the receiver could be triggered accidentally by naturally occurring noises, and some people, especially young women, could hear the piercing ultrasonic signals. There was even a noted incident in which a toy xylophone changed the channels on these types of TVs since some of the overtones from the xylophone matched the remote's ultrasonic frequency.

A guide to GKSR: Click

"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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QuirtEvans
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George K
Jan 6 2010, 06:34 PM
Axtremus
Jan 6 2010, 06:29 PM
"Tuner dial." :lol:

The first color TV I had had twelve buttons for twelve channels. There was a tray that you could pull out, and in there were twelve tuning dials, one for each channel.
Pfft...

I had one of these:

"Space Commander:"

Posted Image
Quote:
 
In 1956 Robert Adler developed "Zenith Space Command", a wireless remote.[3] It was mechanical and used ultrasound to change the channel and volume. When the user pushed a button on the remote control it clicked and struck a bar, hence the term "clicker". Each bar emitted a different frequency and circuits in the television detected this noise. The invention of the transistor made possible cheaper electronic remotes that contained a piezoelectric crystal that was fed by an oscillating electric current at a frequency near or above the upper threshold of human hearing, though still audible to dogs. The receiver contained a microphone attached to a circuit that was tuned to the same frequency. Some problems with this method were that the receiver could be triggered accidentally by naturally occurring noises, and some people, especially young women, could hear the piercing ultrasonic signals. There was even a noted incident in which a toy xylophone changed the channels on these types of TVs since some of the overtones from the xylophone matched the remote's ultrasonic frequency.

I am about to make George feel bad.

Very bad.

Really, very bad.

I remember using one of those Space Commanders. My grandparents had one when I was a teenager.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Axtremus
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HOLY CARP!!!
Was your Space Commander wireless?
(EDIT: OK, just read in your post that it's indeed "wireless.")

The oldest "remote control" I had was wired. The cable was long enough to go halfway across the living room. :biggrin:
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George K
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QuirtEvans
Jan 6 2010, 06:36 PM
I am about to make George feel bad.

Very bad.

Really, very bad.

I remember using one of those Space Commanders. My grandparents had one when I was a teenager.
My grandfather (who died in 1958) and lived with us before his death, was given one of those Zenith TV's by my mom (his daughter). After he died, that TV ended up in my room. That 'clicker' was loud. I was eight.

And, isn't this the perfect example of how threads go off the rails here? :lol2:

Edit: Ax, yeah, it was wireless - which is what made it amazing!
Edited by George K, Jan 6 2010, 06:39 PM.
A guide to GKSR: Click

"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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CHAS
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My father has a remote like the Space Commander. He learned you could drop a quarter on a glass topped table and change the channel.
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Jan 6 2010, 06:11 AM
2010 Prediction : More pr0n will be filmed and released in 3D.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100110/lf_afp/usitinternetvideogamesfilmtelecomsex_20100110231932
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Colleague of mine went to CES and saw the 3-D stuff. His comments:

1. The systems all uses active glasses. Each eye is basically shuttered with a synch signal sent from the TV (think bluetooth) to tell which shutter to open. So, the glasses run on batteries.

2. A bigger problem - there are no (inter-operability) standards. Each of the demos was standalone for each manufacturer - a TV from one manufacturer does not work with the sending unit (DVD player or whetever) of another manufacturer. Ditto for the shuttered glasses.

3. The good news is that there should be an addition to the Blu Ray specification in the near future that covers 3-D content.

My comments:

The battery glasses are a killer for me - I hate having to charge/replace this stuff (my cell phone is bad enough). I can just see sitting down and getting into a movie and the batteries die.

Everyone looks to be having bandwidth issues as it is (do you get some channels which suffer from a lot of mpeg blocking artifacts?). Presumably 3-D will mean twice the bandwidth (as they will send a left eye and a right eye version of the movie/show/whatever). Anyone have AT&T uverse. You can only "watch" one high def channel at a time - period. Any other TV's are standard def only. How will they cope with sending 3-D???

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Apparently, your colleague missed some of the 3-D stuff.

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One of the big problems with 3-D TV is that most systems, when they debut later this year, will require viewers to wear 3-D glasses. They're goofy, expensive and, some testers complain, cause headaches and nausea.

But TCL Corporation, the Chinese company that's a parent of RCA, showed off 3-D TV technology that doesn't require glasses. A company representative said the technology, which adds a layer of rippled lenses to the front of the TV screen to produce the three-dimensional effect, could be used in the home as well as on billboards.

"Basically, we put the glasses that you'd be wearing on the TV," a TCL spokeswoman said.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/11/ces.wrap.up/index.html
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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