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| Gingrich on how to create jobs; makes sense to me | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 3 2009, 07:48 AM (757 Views) | |
| Mikhailoh | Dec 3 2009, 07:48 AM Post #1 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Mark | Dec 3 2009, 07:59 AM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Newt for President! |
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___.___ (_]===* o 0 When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Dec 3 2009, 08:06 AM Post #3 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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The rest of the article makes sense to me but I have no idea how you go from inheriting money to creating new jobs. |
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 3 2009, 08:12 AM Post #4 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Some of it makes sense. Unfortunately, some of it has the distinct odor of crap. And, when the smell of crap is present, it tends to make everything around it smell like crap too. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 3 2009, 08:12 AM Post #5 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Yeah, I've read the study. It's an unscientific piece of garbage. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Mark | Dec 3 2009, 08:35 AM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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The death tax is just as immoral if not more so than the income tax. There doesn't need to be any sort of science behind it. It's immoral. Period. |
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| Aqua Letifer | Dec 3 2009, 08:42 AM Post #7 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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Okay but how does inheritance create jobs? That's the part I'm calling out as B.S. |
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| Mark | Dec 3 2009, 08:49 AM Post #8 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. |
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| Mikhailoh | Dec 3 2009, 08:50 AM Post #9 |
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I could see in some situations where the inheritors of a business have to essentially close it down or sell it off to pay the taxes, but other than that I don't really know. I'll look around a bit. |
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| Free Rider | Dec 3 2009, 09:05 AM Post #10 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I think #1 is one of those things easier said than done. |
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| Mikhailoh | Dec 3 2009, 09:08 AM Post #11 |
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Not really. The first step is yearly, across the board cuts. Everybody, 2% this year, next year and every year after that until we have a balanced budget. Not limiting the increase, cutting the spending. Let the people who know where the fat is cut it. Congress and the White House sure don't know. |
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| Free Rider | Dec 3 2009, 09:28 AM Post #12 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Does everybody include the military? 2% of their budget would hurt us even more in our overseas wars. Does everybody include social security and medicare recipients? With the rate of inflation and the rising costs of healthcare how do you justify reducing what already is an insufficient amount to a retiree or veteran? Do you want to reduce the amount of $$ for repairing crumbling bridges, levees, and other crucial infrastructure that is 40 years overdue for repairs? PS..I hear what you're saying Mik. I'm just trying to illustrate how hard that would be in reality. |
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| Mikhailoh | Dec 3 2009, 09:31 AM Post #13 |
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FR, there is no budget anywhere that cannot function adequately with a 2% cut. Least of all a government budget. |
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| Mark | Dec 3 2009, 09:32 AM Post #14 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Not really. I will answer a resounding YES to all the questions you posed. And I would start with more than 2% each each. Probably more like 10% maybe more. |
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| 1hp | Dec 3 2009, 09:32 AM Post #15 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I think it's a trickle down theory (vs the trickle up poverty that we seem to have now). Wealthy people spend money, even if it's just to entertain themselves, and they do a better job of injecting the cash into the economy than the government does. Paris Hilton may be a moron, but the bars around LA are probably thankful for people like her. |
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| Aqua Letifer | Dec 3 2009, 09:34 AM Post #16 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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Yeah, I've read those studies. I'm with Quirt, they're pretty silly. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Larry | Dec 3 2009, 09:43 AM Post #17 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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The inheritance tax is a crime. The ultra-rich can get around it. The working guy isn't hit by it. It's the ones in the middle - the people who work their asses of to build a business only to have it torn to shreds when they die that carry that load, and they're the ones who create the majority of jobs in this country. |
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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| Axtremus | Dec 3 2009, 09:46 AM Post #18 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Newt Gingrich is wrong. The most effective, most immediate way to create large number of jobs in this environment is to dramatically increase government spending on infrastructure programs. * Upgrade the air traffic control system, nation wide -- we know we need it, so just do it. * Upgrade electricity distribution grids, nation wide -- we know we need it, so just do it. * Build new and/or renovate old school buildings * Renovate government buildings, for functional and energy efficiencies * Build / repair public roads, bridges, Interstate highways, levees, etc. * Upgrade/expand all government IT systems; subsidize state, counties, cities, and townships' IT upgrade/expansion projects. * Bring lots of broadband data links to suburban and rural areas, make every American home as well-connected as those in Seoul or Tokyo. * Make massive public investments in high speed wireless networks, make the whole nation's wireless broadband coverage rival that of Seoul or Tokyo's. * Massively expand public transportation systems (rail, subways, busses, trollies, etc.) * Digitize all public domain literary works, make them all freely available to every one (no BS like Google trying to claim copyrights of their digitized versions of public domain works) * Dramatically increase funding for basic research -- those that take 20+ years to see commercial applications, the type that has massive potentials but the private sector enterprises are too chicken and too short-sighted to underwrite * Massively increase subsidies to states and cities and counties and townships and national parks, etc. -- so they don't have to lay off police and firefighters and rangers and librarians and curators and town clerks and administrative support staff, etc. |
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| Larry | Dec 3 2009, 09:47 AM Post #19 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Ax, that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read concerning how to create jobs. |
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| Copper | Dec 3 2009, 09:56 AM Post #20 |
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Shortstop
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Sure, government handouts are so much easier than making people work for their money. That way nobody has to work very much and we are all happier. Big government is the answer, it comes with built-in stability. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Dec 3 2009, 10:03 AM Post #21 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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That's a temporary solution at best, and I trust business with supplying, well, more business, far more than I do the government. That's not their responsibility, just for starters. What are you going to do once those infrastructure programs are completed? |
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| Mikhailoh | Dec 3 2009, 10:06 AM Post #22 |
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The problem with that approach is it is unsustainable. The businesses that arise from it will only be there so long as the government services are being purchased. It creates an unnatural marketplace. When you put money in the hands of people who will use it to create wealth for themselves by serving the real marketplace you will create lasting jobs. My county refused the stimulus funds because they established programs that would still have to be paid for after the stimulus funds are gone. It is, I believe, the correct approach. |
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| Aqua Letifer | Dec 3 2009, 10:13 AM Post #23 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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Holy ****. I'm agreeing with Larry, Copper and Mik on political stuff. What a sorry state of affairs the country must be in.
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 3 2009, 10:18 AM Post #24 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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I knew it. You're a closet fascist.
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| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Red Rice | Dec 3 2009, 10:19 AM Post #25 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Yes, that would create a large number of jobs. But where would the money come from? |
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Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool. I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss! - Cecil Lewis | |
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