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| QuirtEvans | Dec 1 2009, 07:20 PM Post #26 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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I agree with that part, too. The additional part that you didn't quote (and I didn't jot down) said that he wholeheartedly supports benchmarks that aren't tied to a date certain. And I agree with that, too. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| George K | Dec 1 2009, 07:27 PM Post #27 |
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Finally
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The full text of Sen. McCain's comments:
What part about benchmarks did I not quote? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| George K | Dec 1 2009, 07:31 PM Post #28 |
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Oh, and there's this comment from the President in tonight's speech:
I, for one, am not aware of "repeated requests for support" coming from commanders in Afghanistan, and I am not aware of the failure of those reinforcements to arrive. Can someone point me to a link that validates that statement? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 1 2009, 07:37 PM Post #29 |
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As I said, I was not quoting his official statement. I was quoting him talking to Katie Couric ... I watched him on CBS, after the speech, live. He very specifically mentioned, in talking to her, that he is a strong supporter of the concept of benchmarks. Since I am not his communications director, I cannot tell you why the official remarks didn't include that, or why he said it to Katie if it wasn't in the official remarks. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Piano*Dad | Dec 1 2009, 07:50 PM Post #30 |
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Bull-Carp
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Some might find this amusing. Others may find it infuriating. Telnaes Cartoon |
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| Mikhailoh | Dec 1 2009, 07:52 PM Post #31 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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That was funny. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 1 2009, 07:54 PM Post #32 |
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Yeah, that was pretty good. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Jolly | Dec 1 2009, 08:03 PM Post #33 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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His election? That you can fool most of the people, most of the time. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Copper | Dec 1 2009, 08:06 PM Post #34 |
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Shortstop
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OK, that seems obvious. So why did Mr. Obama establish the deadline? Any reason having to do with military strategy or just plain politics? |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Mikhailoh | Dec 1 2009, 08:11 PM Post #35 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Something familiar Something peculiar Something for everyone Obamaspeak today! |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Piano*Dad | Dec 1 2009, 08:11 PM Post #36 |
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Bull-Carp
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Just plain politics. But you know, politics is sometimes the art of the doable. Always condemning someone for political motives is often self-defeating. Being 'above politics' is frequently the tactic of those who never accomplish anything of substance. |
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| Mikhailoh | Dec 1 2009, 08:20 PM Post #37 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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It is politics to be sure. But it could have benefits other than in domestic politics. Stay tuned. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Larry | Dec 1 2009, 08:33 PM Post #38 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Tonight was the Christmas parade in my little town. And of course, where there's a small town Christmas parade, there are military vets marching in the parade, showing off the National Guard vehicles, passing out candy, etc. After the parade the vets got together for a little while. I got to talk to several guys who will be shipping out in late January. Obama's speech? No one gave a damn about listening to it. The attitude was, he's my commander in Chief, if he tells me to do something I'll do it. But I do not respect the man, and if he gives a pullout deadline like we think he's going to do, he just made our job ten times harder, and ten times more dangerous. Obama is a clown. He pops up after months and MONTHS of our troops waiting for a decision while they sat like fish in a barrel, and gives less than is needed and ties it to a surrender date, and we're supposed to think this man is worthy of our praise? Sorry. Not me. He can go straight to hell. |
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 2 2009, 05:21 AM Post #39 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Sorry, but I have to respond to this. The commanders asked for 40K. He gave them 30K. But he also changed the mission. Now, it isn't to defeat the Taliban ... it's to prepare the Afghan army to take over. And it's limited to the more populated areas ... the rural areas are out. With the changes in the mission, the military leaders are satisfied that they got what they needed. So's McCain, who would never support the President if he thought the President was short-changing the military. You're wrong on this particular point. Flat wrong. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Piano*Dad | Dec 2 2009, 05:29 AM Post #40 |
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Bull-Carp
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.... and I thought you were going to take on this point ...
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 2 2009, 06:39 AM Post #41 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Another stake in the heart of Larry's point ... Duncan Hunter, a former Marine, nobody's idea of a liberal, just said this on CNN: "He is giving General McChrystal what he needs." (Hunter also disagrees with the timetable, but then, so do I.) |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| VPG | Dec 2 2009, 06:50 AM Post #42 |
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Pisa-Carp
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Does any one other than me think Chris Mathews is nuts? Forgetting his extream left wing cheer leading, that I understand. But the things he say's are weird. Like that "enemy camp" line above. |
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I'M NOT YELLING.........I'M ITALIAN...........THAT'S HOW WE TALK! "People say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look." Ronald Reagan, Inaugural, 1971 | |
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| John D'Oh | Dec 2 2009, 06:51 AM Post #43 |
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MAMIL
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Obama's in a pretty unenviable position - He's got to try and avoid his own party from revolting but doing what he knows needs doing from what the army are telling him. He's also got to try and keep the Republican peanut gallery from making too much capital out of the situation. I don't think his solution is all that bad, all things considered. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| John D'Oh | Dec 2 2009, 06:52 AM Post #44 |
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MAMIL
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He's as sane as Glenn Beck. |
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| VPG | Dec 2 2009, 07:12 AM Post #45 |
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Pisa-Carp
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That's sort of my point. There are people "on air" that are nuts. Beck is also nut's, but he draws a huge audience. So I can understand his higher ups putting up with him. But Mathews draws 12 people a night to his show. You would think some one above him would drop him before he say's something like the guy from the movie Broadcast. |
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I'M NOT YELLING.........I'M ITALIAN...........THAT'S HOW WE TALK! "People say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look." Ronald Reagan, Inaugural, 1971 | |
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| Kincaid | Dec 2 2009, 11:20 AM Post #46 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I hope this subtle "change in the mission" doesn't lead to ultimate failure (say, Taliban control in 2015 and invitations out to everyone needing to set up a terrorist training camp). I hope that, as McCrystal noted, the pull out date can always be extended later on if warranted. |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| John D'Oh | Dec 2 2009, 11:25 AM Post #47 |
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MAMIL
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I hate the lot of them. I wish someone would drop bombs on talk-radio and TV poltical commentary personalities until they shut up. Note to any government agents etc: I don't really mean they should have bombs dropped on them - this is a joke. I'd actually prefer mustard gas since it would be possible to broadcast that on YouTube. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| George K | Dec 3 2009, 08:22 AM Post #48 |
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Finally
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Free Rider | Dec 3 2009, 08:53 AM Post #49 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I dislike Chris Matthews... He talks way too fast, mumbles like he's choking on his own spit, and interrupts the people he invites on his show before they can make a point. He's annoying as hell to watch. |
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| Mikhailoh | Dec 3 2009, 08:54 AM Post #50 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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And he gets a stiffie for Obama. That's teh ghey. |
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