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This Is Why I Voted For Him
Topic Started: Dec 1 2009, 05:45 PM (812 Views)
QuirtEvans
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"The President made the right decision to have a properly resourced counter-insurgency strategy. I support it. I believe that the additional 30,000 troops and the additional NATO troops are sufficient to get the job done, and I hope that Republicans and Democrats support it."
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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George K
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But we'll have them out by the end of 2011.
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He said it twice, too.
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Mikhailoh
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So I guess a surge is a good idea after all. Well, at least when it's Obama doing it.

Now, bear in mind that I agree with the heart of the strategy and that both parties should support it. I applaud McCain for saying so. Still, I can't help but remember Obama decrying the surge in Iraq, even after it worked.
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QuirtEvans
Dec 1 2009, 05:45 PM
"The President made the right decision to have a properly resourced counter-insurgency strategy. I support it. I believe that the additional 30,000 troops and the additional NATO troops are sufficient to get the job done, and I hope that Republicans and Democrats support it."
I thought you voted for McCain. Or are you channeling someone else with your "quotes".
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There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

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Mikhailoh
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That was McCain.
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Mark
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A whole lot of BS!
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George K
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Chris Matthews comments:

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"It seems like in this case, there isn't a lot of excitement," Matthews said. "I watched the cadets, they were young kids - men and women who were committed to serving their country professionally it must be said, as officers. And, I didn't see much excitement. But among the older people there, I saw, if not resentment, skepticism. I didn't see a lot of warmth in that crowd out there. The president chose to address tonight and I thought it was interesting. He went to maybe the enemy camp tonight to make his case. I mean, that's where Paul Wolfowitz used to write speeches for, back in the old Bush days. That's where he went to rabble rouse the "we're going to democratize the world" campaign back in '02. So, I thought it was a strange venue."

West Point is the "enemy camp?"
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JBryan
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Announcing a troop increase in conjunction with a date certain for withdrawal is a recipe for disaster. Leadership seems to be constrained by politics within the Democrat Party. Always trying to have it both ways may get a lot of people killed.
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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Dec 1 2009, 06:30 PM
Chris Matthews comments:

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"It seems like in this case, there isn't a lot of excitement," Matthews said. "I watched the cadets, they were young kids - men and women who were committed to serving their country professionally it must be said, as officers. And, I didn't see much excitement. But among the older people there, I saw, if not resentment, skepticism. I didn't see a lot of warmth in that crowd out there. The president chose to address tonight and I thought it was interesting. He went to maybe the enemy camp tonight to make his case. I mean, that's where Paul Wolfowitz used to write speeches for, back in the old Bush days. That's where he went to rabble rouse the "we're going to democratize the world" campaign back in '02. So, I thought it was a strange venue."

West Point is the "enemy camp?"
What do you think? He is the commander in chief of US armed forces or something?
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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Mikhailoh
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The 18 month timeline is only valid until the second week of November 2010. After the midterms I fully expect he will scrap it. In the meantime it placates some factions in his supporters.

But you are right in that it does not show commitment to our goals. It should be interesting to see if Stratfor comments.
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JBryan
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What does it say to our enemies? What does it say to our friends?
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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Axtremus
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JBryan
Dec 1 2009, 06:36 PM
What does it say to our enemies? What does it say to our friends?
What does it say to the American people?
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Mikhailoh
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It gives our enemies hope, and a direction. On the other hand, if it causes them to lay low and wait us out it may give us enough reprieve to work on the Afghan army.
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How many Afghans will actually get to hear or read what Obama said? :blink:
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Axtremus
Dec 1 2009, 06:41 PM
How many Afghans will actually get to hear or read what Obama said? :blink:
Irrelevant.

Every Afghani will get to hear or read what Obama does, and in 19 months we'll know if he's good to his word.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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Mikhailoh
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We already know that.
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Mark
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His what? :spit:
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Mikhailoh
Dec 1 2009, 06:35 PM
The 18 month timeline is only valid until the second week of November 2010. After the midterms I fully expect he will scrap it. In the meantime it placates some factions in his supporters.

But you are right in that it does not show commitment to our goals. It should be interesting to see if Stratfor comments.
This is true, I think.

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George K
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JBryan
Dec 1 2009, 06:34 PM
What do you think? He is the commander in chief of US armed forces or something?
Yeah, the need to "rabble rouse" at West Point.
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Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

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Ruh Roh...

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- Klaus, 4/29/18
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Mikhailoh
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I saw several cadets snoozing.
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George K
Dec 1 2009, 06:52 PM
Ruh Roh...

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Brilliant.
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QuirtEvans
Dec 1 2009, 05:45 PM
"The President made the right decision to have a properly resourced counter-insurgency strategy. I support it. I believe that the additional 30,000 troops and the additional NATO troops are sufficient to get the job done, and I hope that Republicans and Democrats support it."
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What I do not support, and what concerns me greatly, is the President’s decision to set an arbitrary date to begin withdrawing U.S. forces from Afghanistan. A date for withdrawal sends exactly the wrong message to both our friends and our enemies – in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the entire region – all of whom currently doubt whether America is committed to winning this war. A withdrawal date only emboldens Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, while dispiriting our Afghan partners and making it less likely that they will risk their lives to take our side in this fight.

“Success is the real exit strategy. When we have achieved our goals in Afghanistan, our troops should begin to return home with honor, but that withdrawal should be based on conditions on the ground, not arbitrary deadlines. In the days ahead, I will seek to address this and other questions I have about the President’s policy, including my continuing concern about the civilian aspect of our strategy."
Emphasis mine.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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JBryan
Dec 1 2009, 06:20 PM
QuirtEvans
Dec 1 2009, 05:45 PM
"The President made the right decision to have a properly resourced counter-insurgency strategy. I support it. I believe that the additional 30,000 troops and the additional NATO troops are sufficient to get the job done, and I hope that Republicans and Democrats support it."
I thought you voted for McCain. Or are you channeling someone else with your "quotes".
As Mik said, that was a direct quote from McCain, talking to Katie Couric, right after the Prez's speech.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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