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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 30 2009, 05:20 PM (793 Views) | |
| George K | Dec 1 2009, 05:08 PM Post #26 |
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Our (Samsung) LCD is on a south wall. When you watch, the wall to the right (west) is all windows, and we have a perfect picture. No washout, no glare. In Mrs. George's |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 1 2009, 05:29 PM Post #27 |
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LCDs are supposed to do better than plasmas in brightly lit rooms, iirc. |
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| George K | Dec 1 2009, 05:30 PM Post #28 |
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That's right, and that's why I went that way (not to mention weight and heat output). |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| brenda | Dec 1 2009, 06:18 PM Post #29 |
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George! Be nice to the woman who lets you buy new ginormous computers.
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| George K | Dec 1 2009, 06:24 PM Post #30 |
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Nah. She has nothing to do with it. As I've mentioned before, our group has an "educational and professional business" allowance. If I don't spend the money, it goes back to the group, and I only gain 1/7 of my allowance in salary. It's to my advantage to get one "for free." |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| brenda | Dec 1 2009, 06:28 PM Post #31 |
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That's right. I recall you saying that in another thread. There must be 32 other good reasons to be nice about her sewing room, or is it 34? |
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| George K | Dec 1 2009, 06:31 PM Post #32 |
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Oh, there are plenty of reasons, of course. But the "ginormous computer" simply isn't one of them.
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Mikhailoh | Dec 1 2009, 06:54 PM Post #33 |
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Clean and articulate, too. |
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| Piano*Dad | Dec 1 2009, 07:55 PM Post #34 |
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Bull-Carp
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I'm replacing my four year old Samsung DLP with a new Samsung LED next week. The LED picture with a blue ray disc was darn near 3D in complexity. Yowza. |
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 1 2009, 07:58 PM Post #35 |
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I didn't love the Samsung LEDs. I didn't hate them, I just thought the picture was a little too "bright and white" for my taste. I like the Sony LCDs better. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Piano*Dad | Dec 1 2009, 08:02 PM Post #36 |
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Bull-Carp
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That's why there's a market! I find the Sony's too cartoon-colored. Almost unnaturally brightly primary colored. |
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| Jolly | Dec 1 2009, 08:51 PM Post #37 |
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Yet....Samsung makes the LED screens for Sony.... |
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| 1hp | Dec 1 2009, 09:36 PM Post #38 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Most TVs need adjusted after you buy them - they are often shipped with a setup that shows well in a brightly lit showroom. For some reason people seem to think bright TVs are the best - at least in the show room. Not too hard to adjust them - if nothing else spend the $30 for an adjustment DVD - colour and contrast will be noticeably better. ANd if you have the option, drive them with DVI or HDMI - they will be crisper. |
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 2 2009, 05:17 AM Post #39 |
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The screen is not the electronics behind it, and that's where the color resides. (And an LED isn't an LCD, but I think you were talking to PD.) |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Piano*Dad | Dec 2 2009, 05:26 AM Post #40 |
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Indeed. Samsung is a major maker of LCD panels for other folks. What's amusing, or interesting, or both, is that LCD costs have not come down nearly as much as people expected simply based on the usual hyperbolic cost patterns of most computer-related goods. LCD making has proved more immune to labor-saving productivity changes than many might have guessed ten years ago. I suppose also, that this helps explain why so many systems (new and old) continue to fight it out in the market place. If the LCD had become dirt cheap really fast it might have networked most everything else out of the market for a while, sort of like Windows did a while back. The TV market is an interesting classroom example for me of outsourcing. Or in-sourcing, actually, since many of the components of Asian manufactured TVs come from (or used to come from) elsewhere (like Texas or Germany). Edited by Piano*Dad, Dec 2 2009, 05:27 AM.
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| Kincaid | Dec 2 2009, 11:37 AM Post #41 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I kept waiting (and waiting) for the Pioneer Kuro 50" plasma to come down around $1250. It never did and now I think they are discontinuing them. I have a JVC LCD (720p I guess which I paid about $1200 for just a few years ago) and I just hooked it up to a Blue Ray disc player with the HDMI cable. It has an upconverter to 1080p and I can't believe how much better the picture is. Probably in just a year or so I'll get a 50" Plasma or LCD for the family room, as the prices are just getting nuts. Costco has some selling for well under $1000. |
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| Red Rice | Dec 2 2009, 12:57 PM Post #42 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I read that this was due to the difficulties of manufacturing the glass for the larger LCD screens. The process is technically very difficult with a high reject rate, and there are relatively few plants in the world capable of doing it (most in Taiwan, IIRC). Glass for smaller LCD screens is much easier to make, which is why small screen TVs have dropped in price more rapidly. |
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Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool. I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss! - Cecil Lewis | |
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| Kincaid | Dec 2 2009, 02:32 PM Post #43 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I could have saved myself about $900 if I could have waited two years to buy my 32" LCD. Alas, my old CRT TV pooped out before I wanted it to. |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 2 2009, 03:30 PM Post #44 |
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CNET has a new review out of 32-inch LCDs. http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6482_7-6667992.html?tag=nl.e702 |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| 1hp | Dec 2 2009, 04:26 PM Post #45 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Not quite correct. An LCD is really a filter - it modulates the light from the backlight (it actually works with polarisers, the LCD alters the plane of polarisation, but that's too complicated to explain). So, the colour in an LCD TV originates from the backlight - that's why different manufacturers can use the same LCD but the level of colour saturation is different. If you put more cash into a better quality backlight, you get an image with better colour. We used to use metal halide lamps behind LCDs and laminate a screen onto the front of the lcd - colour quality was excellent, but it was no longer a flat display, and the lamp needed a fan. I don't know what the spectral output of a white LED is, or whether there are white LEDs with warmer and colder colour temperatures - but you will likely notice a difference between fluorescent backlit TVs and LED back lit/edge lit TVs. Kincaid - I believe plasma TVs are disappearing. Pioneer stopped making their's about a year ago. We had several 50 inch Pioneers at work, and those things radiated heat something awful! |
| There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those that understand binary and................ | |
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| sue | Dec 2 2009, 05:07 PM Post #46 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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thanks for that, Quirt. This has been a great thread for me too, as we are thinking about joining the 'non-square' tv world. Getting a bit tired of the black bands. Figured we'd get something new before the Olympics, but for sure before the world cup in June. But hey, if they're on sale now......
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| Kincaid | Dec 2 2009, 05:50 PM Post #47 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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So, I'm assuming they are energy hogs compared to LCDs? I can live with any of the great LCD's out now too. In fact, judging by how they look at Costco, I could probably be entirely happy with a 50" 720p LCD. |
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| 1hp | Dec 2 2009, 07:50 PM Post #48 |
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Fulla-Carp
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The end of Plasma TVs? Pioneer Plasma TVs: R.I.P. Didn't realise Panasonic was heavy into plasma. However, it looks like they put a hold on the opening of their state-of-the-art new plasma panel manufacturing plant near Osaka. |
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