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| Sally Quinn on Sarah Palin's Rogue Christianity | |
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| Larry | Nov 18 2009, 10:31 AM Post #26 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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I see you need to take a few courses in religion..... |
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| Axtremus | Nov 18 2009, 10:32 AM Post #27 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It's unspecified. Could be for hobby, could be for ridding the world of swords by acquisition, could be as props to enact musicals, could be for gardening and tree bush sculpting, etc. It may also be for killing, but that runs into conflict with the 'thou shalt not kill' commandment. |
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| Larry | Nov 18 2009, 10:38 AM Post #28 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Perhaps it was understood as a given - except in your case, obviously - that when one said "buy some shoes" they expected you to put them on your feet, and when someone said "buy a sword" they expected you to carry it and use it if necessary.
Man, when ignorance is given free rein, it just runs like water, doesn't it...
Like I said - I see you need to take a few courses in religion.... First though, I'd recommend you learn the difference between the words "offense" and "defense". |
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| John D'Oh | Nov 18 2009, 10:44 AM Post #29 |
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MAMIL
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Mark didn't specify that I had to stick with the New Testament, he just said The Bible. I'm just having a laugh, incidentally. It does however demonstrate that it's pretty easy to justify anything you like quoting Scripture as soon as you remove the goggles of common sense and put on the spectacles of literalistic idiocy. People who read the Bible as literal and simplistic truth are barking up the wrong tree entirely, IMHO - obviously there's a lot of good stuff in there as well, even for a worthless heathen such as myself. |
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| Jolly | Nov 18 2009, 10:44 AM Post #30 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Most Christians wouldn't. Next shocker: Jews and Christians do not agree that Jesus is the Messiah! Film at eleven! |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Jolly | Nov 18 2009, 10:48 AM Post #31 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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I think you can take it literally and still find meaning. But you must take Biblical passages in context, and as part of an overall message. There are many parts of the Bible with two meanings or more. Sometimes, the more you know, the more meaning you find. But...don't get caught up in minutae, and miss the big picture... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Mark | Nov 18 2009, 11:24 AM Post #32 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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No I didn't, but you failed to produce anything about what I requested. |
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___.___ (_]===* o 0 When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells | |
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| John D'Oh | Nov 18 2009, 12:10 PM Post #33 |
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MAMIL
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OK,
Jesus did, in fact, acknowledge that people should pay their taxes to the Roman State. 'Render unto Caesar....' etc. and I think you'd find that what the Jews were suffering under the Roman yolk was an awful lot closer to slavery than where the American obsession with large houses and HD televisions paid for with money they don't have has led them over the last couple of years. Incidentally, I don't agree that Christ's teaching and socialism have much in common - other than a tendency towards the embracing of poverty and uninspiring food. |
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| Mark | Nov 18 2009, 12:30 PM Post #34 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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My labor is mine and mine alone. You do not have the right to take that which is mine without my permission. That is called stealing. My labor is mine to give freely but then the person receiving it for free from me must actually claim it as income in accordance with fair market value? So, unless you agree to the notion that my labor is not mine then I suppose you have an argument. Caesar does not own me. Therefore I should not have to render unto him anything of myself. Now you can also argue that I take as compensation for my labor, Caesar's paper for which he want's a cut. Fine, let me be free to not accept Caesar's money for my labor. Also you should be prohibited from attaching a "like value to Caesar's money" and then make me have to come up with something I never had in the first place. Tax me when I purchase something which aids in the free flow of economic activity. Not just because I have to earn money to stay alive. |
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| Aqua Letifer | Nov 18 2009, 12:33 PM Post #35 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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So basically today's quibble about Palin is that she's not Jesus. |
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| JBryan | Nov 18 2009, 12:41 PM Post #36 |
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I am the grey one
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And a good thing too that she isn't. The beard would just ruin it for me. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Jolly | Nov 18 2009, 01:00 PM Post #37 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Depends on where it's at... |
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| Copper | Nov 18 2009, 01:29 PM Post #38 |
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Shortstop
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Unlike Mr. Obama. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| JBryan | Nov 18 2009, 01:30 PM Post #39 |
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I am the grey one
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True. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Nov 18 2009, 05:42 PM Post #40 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Are people beating on Sarah Palin, or insulting her? By your own terms, the ultimate insult merits turning the other cheek. An act that you are apparently incapable of. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Nov 18 2009, 05:44 PM Post #41 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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The Old Testament is still in the King James Bible, last I checked. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| John D'Oh | Nov 18 2009, 06:06 PM Post #42 |
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MAMIL
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The original, and best. Pillars of salt, almost total annihilation of humanity, genocide, rainbows - it's all there! |
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| Copper | Nov 18 2009, 06:31 PM Post #43 |
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Shortstop
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I wonder if you haven't misinterpreted the idea of turning the other cheek. Similar to the concept of a loving, forgiving God it isn't meant to be used to bash people over the head. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| blondie | Nov 18 2009, 06:33 PM Post #44 |
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Good point. |
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| QuirtEvans | Nov 18 2009, 06:33 PM Post #45 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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If someone refuses to turn the other cheek, is it un-Christian to point that out? I don't think so. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Copper | Nov 18 2009, 07:12 PM Post #46 |
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It clearly demonstrates a lack of understanding. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Copper | Nov 18 2009, 07:15 PM Post #47 |
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Christianity is not the ultimate socialism, not at all. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Jeff | Nov 18 2009, 07:39 PM Post #48 |
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Senior Carp
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Never liked that phrase. I mean, all of it is pretty old, doncha think? |
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| QuirtEvans | Nov 18 2009, 07:44 PM Post #49 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Perhaps. Or perhaps you are the one who doesn't understand. Jesus certainly didn't have a problem with telling people when he felt they weren't honoring his teaching in the proper manner. If you want to live by Jesus' example, you'd live the same way, right? |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Nov 18 2009, 07:45 PM Post #50 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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I called it the Old Testament because that's convention, and everyone knows what it means. But, if you don't like that, then you can call it the Older Testament. And explain each time to people what you mean. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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