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| Obama scraps missile defense shield in Europe; I predicted this | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 17 2009, 08:40 AM (1,055 Views) | |
| Mikhailoh | Sep 17 2009, 08:40 AM Post #1 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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I'd at least like to know that we got something for this, and what it is. I find the 'new missile defense architecture' pretty vague.
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Copper | Sep 17 2009, 08:44 AM Post #2 |
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Shortstop
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Jolly | Sep 17 2009, 09:52 AM Post #3 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Poland, we hardly knew ye... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| QuirtEvans | Sep 17 2009, 10:00 AM Post #4 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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It amazes me that the very same people whinging about how we cannot afford health care reform are willing to spend untold amounts of money on a missile shield system that doesn't work, and, even if it did, probably wouldn't shield us very well anyway. The military-industrial complex has you wrapped around their finger, boys. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Mark | Sep 17 2009, 10:36 AM Post #5 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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+1 |
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___.___ (_]===* o 0 When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells | |
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| Renauda | Sep 17 2009, 10:52 AM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Rubbish, Poland's not going anywhere. |
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| Mark | Sep 17 2009, 10:55 AM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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+1 Hmmm, did the temperature in Hell just decrease a bit?
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___.___ (_]===* o 0 When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells | |
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| JBryan | Sep 17 2009, 10:55 AM Post #8 |
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I am the grey one
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It is rather strange that this announcement comes on the 70th anniversary of the Russian invasion of Poland. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| brenda | Sep 17 2009, 11:01 AM Post #9 |
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This and your agreement with Quirt in the other thread might make Lucifer search for a jacket, Mark.
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| Renauda | Sep 17 2009, 11:13 AM Post #10 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Correction JB: It is 70th anniversary of the *Soviet invasion of Poland* and the announcement is purely coincidental to the events of 1939. |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 17 2009, 11:31 AM Post #11 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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$9-14 billion for 20 years of missile defense in Eastern Europe. Now how much was that healthcare bill again? About $900 billion for 10 years was it? Your comparison is ridiculous. |
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| JBryan | Sep 17 2009, 11:44 AM Post #12 |
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I am the grey one
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I was sure it was unintentional but I still found it an odd coincidence. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Mark | Sep 17 2009, 12:50 PM Post #13 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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FIFY!
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| Axtremus | Sep 17 2009, 12:57 PM Post #14 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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No confidence that the "missile defense system" will work (much less work well), do not see credible threat that would depend on such a system to neutralize, see it as a waste of resources to begin with, glad to see it scrapped. |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 17 2009, 01:04 PM Post #15 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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As I've said before, it doesn't have to work perfectly. It only has to work well enough, or be perceived to work well enough, to deter an attack. |
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| Axtremus | Sep 17 2009, 01:08 PM Post #16 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Nope, don't see any deterrent value either. Even when working perfectly, it will be "defensive," not "offensive." Best case, it shoots down missiles. It cannot deal damage or otherwise punish the entity that launches the offending missiles. So no deterrent value. |
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| Renauda | Sep 17 2009, 01:13 PM Post #17 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Deter an attack from whom? |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 17 2009, 01:18 PM Post #18 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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We have systems to do that. Vaporizing someone after they have obliterated a couple or three million people won't bring those folks back. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 17 2009, 01:19 PM Post #19 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Take your pick. I never believed the system was truly intended to deter Iran anyway. |
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| Axtremus | Sep 17 2009, 01:24 PM Post #20 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Prevention ≠ Deterrence (I will grant you that Deterrence ∈ Prevention. But I have no confidence that it will work as Prevention either. I do not believe there is any country that can launch missiles into NATO thinks that it would work as well.) |
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| Renauda | Sep 17 2009, 01:37 PM Post #21 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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No Mik, you take your pick. I asked you first. |
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| Jolly | Sep 17 2009, 01:38 PM Post #22 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Missle Defense is basic castle doctrine. You either totally defend against an attack, or you make sure your screen is good enough to sap some of your opponent's strength while maintaining your own. The resources allocated to this project do not exceed the cost of 5 B-2 bombers. It's a strategic blunder on Obama's part. |
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| Mark | Sep 17 2009, 01:43 PM Post #23 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Who exactly are we strategizing against? Sheesh. |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 17 2009, 02:04 PM Post #24 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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No one Mark. It's a perfectly safe world. Kumbaya. |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 17 2009, 02:07 PM Post #25 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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A good place to look would be who gets upset about it. |
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