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'No Homo' - never heard of this before.
Topic Started: Jul 20 2009, 05:32 PM (854 Views)
Mikhailoh
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I have to agree with IT here. Neither side has a monopoly on projecting the psyche of the other.
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Yes the Free Church of Scotland could now be seen as extremists, but they remind us that on the roller coaster of societies ups and downs, the acceptance of things just because many other people have accepted them is not always a good thing.

Anyone that thinks the 24/7 culture is a good thing must be quite different to me.

Back on topic, obviously we have all known and work/ed with homosexuals. I've found them probably more thoughtful, sensitive and caring people than many hetros. But what makes it 'normal' or even 'right' I ask? It is a difficult topic (and I've seen some discussions here), especially when your children start asking questions. I try my best to be fair, but point out that normality for me is a loving & stable hetrosexual family, I was brought up in one, and have given my children one.
I do object to the change in meaning that is now associated with the words 'gay' and 'marriage'. Call the commitment ceremony something else please.


You know, if I haven't been on the underground for a while and I get on during rush hour, I think to myself "Why do people do this day in day out, it's awful, crowded, smelly, noisy, waiting at each stop in the gloom, pushing & rushing past people".
If I have to use it for a week or two constantly, I become used to the whole awful thing and accept it.
That's what people are like about so many things from my experience; they forget how much nicer it can be with the TV off and not go shopping to gratify their lust for possessions; they forget the joy of treading quiet paths, doing a bit of gardening, playing with the children, even singing in worship.

Every morning the soul is once again as good as new, and again one offers it to one's brothers & sisters in life.

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Mikhailoh
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Andy, we are in complete agreement on the 24/7 culture. I remember Sundays, when nothing was open and families were together.
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Mikhailoh
Jul 22 2009, 04:13 AM
Andy, we are in complete agreement on the 24/7 culture. I remember Sundays, when nothing was open and families were together.
Way I figure, if there's a lacking sense of family togetherness, a good place to fix that is in the home, not limiting business hours.

Stores with extended hours are great for people who have to work regular hours, and for folks who have no family to be with on Sundays.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Mikhailoh
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Ah, but you did not grow up with family Sundays. It opens up a whole lot of opportunity for people in a number of areas. And it just slows the pace of life a bit.
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Sundays were so freaking boring when I was a kid. We'd sit on the park with nothing to do but smoke cigarettes all day.

Oh, and pray, obviously. Pray for something to bloody do.

Our prayers were eventually answered with the advent of bloody awful DIY Stores being allowed to trade. The only thing worse than having absolutely nothing to do is walk around a DIY store with your family. It's no wonder kids of my era sniffed glue - it was the only thing they could buy on a Sunday.
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Mikhailoh
Jul 22 2009, 04:28 AM
Ah, but you did not grow up with family Sundays. It opens up a whole lot of opportunity for people in a number of areas. And it just slows the pace of life a bit.
Eh, I think I did. There was never a declaration of "It's Sunday and it's Family Day, Dammit," but what with church, yard activities and homework, we were all more or less around the house, doing things together.

I'm all for slowing the pace of life a bit. But it's also nice to hit up the store when it's not crowded.

I suspect I would feel differently if I still had that family environment.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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AndyD
Jul 22 2009, 01:45 AM

Anyone that thinks the 24/7 culture is a good thing must be quite different to me.

I do object to the change in meaning that is now associated with the words 'gay' and 'marriage'. Call the commitment ceremony something else please.


That's what people are like about so many things from my experience; they forget how much nicer it can be with the TV off and not go shopping to gratify their lust for possessions; they forget the joy of treading quiet paths, doing a bit of gardening, playing with the children, even singing in worship.

24/7 culture of what? Life?

People could call "gay marriages", oh, I don't know....marraiges? There is NO difference between a homo couple marrying and a hetero couple...they're both getting married, therefore they are both engaging in marriages.

I agree with this last one: people need to back away from the electrical devices sometimes. I went for a 9-10 mile walk last Sunday and it was great! We found an abandoned house and barn with an open well (scary!). Most of my friends didn't understand why I would walk that far and by choice. Because it's good to do!

I don't really think people just accept homos because they're used to them (well, not ONLY for that). I think it's because people have discovered that they actually DON'T have 2 sets of teeth, 5 eyes, and 15 fingers; gay men also don't lust after every man, nor lesbians every woman. Shocking!
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Mikhailoh
Jul 22 2009, 04:13 AM
Andy, we are in complete agreement on the 24/7 culture. I remember Sundays, when nothing was open and families were together.
Come visit me in Farmville. I'm not religious at all, but I do appriciate the reasons the town is pretty much shut down on Sundays (except the ABC store should be open...). It's nice to go to brunch around 11 (when everyone else is in church...HA! all the fresh food is mine!) and then see families coming in after church.
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Mikhailoh
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I have been to Farmville and will testify to its slow pace. Every day is Sunday in Farmville, VA. That sense of normalcy and life balance is one of the things I love about Virginia.
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Me too. And that normalcy has nothing to do with church for me, just a slower pace and respect for people....and manners. It's like the town where most of my family lives was like 10 years ago....before all the Pennsylvania folk decided it was a nice place for vacation homes and yachts instead of workboats and sailboats. Oh, no, I'm not bitter or anything....
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Mikhailoh
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Where does your family live?
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Mikhailoh
Jul 22 2009, 06:37 AM
I have been to Farmville and will testify to its slow pace. Every day is Sunday in Farmville, VA. That sense of normalcy and life balance is one of the things I love about Virginia.
Your Virginia experiences are altogether different from my own.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Mikhailoh
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You live in the district area. Whole 'nuther ballgame. Just like the difference between NYC and upstate.
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Jul 22 2009, 06:45 AM
Mikhailoh
Jul 22 2009, 06:37 AM
I have been to Farmville and will testify to its slow pace. Every day is Sunday in Farmville, VA. That sense of normalcy and life balance is one of the things I love about Virginia.
Your Virginia experiences are altogether different from my own.
Well, yes. I lived on the outskirts of NOVA (Lessburg), and had to deal with NOVA traffic and people. Then I discovered southern VA. I'm never going back north again!!!! Give me sweet tea and catfish every day as far as I'm concerned.
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Mikhailoh
Jul 22 2009, 06:44 AM
Where does your family live?
Around and in Chestertown and Rock Hall, MD. Vacationers take over during the summer with yachts and horribly fugly speedboats. They call themselves watermen and saliors....well, where are the sails, fishing poles, and trot lines??? :veryangry:
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Mikhailoh
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I'm with you. Motoring ain't sailing.
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LWpianistin
Jul 22 2009, 06:51 AM
Mikhailoh
Jul 22 2009, 06:44 AM
Where does your family live?
Around and in Chestertown and Rock Hall, MD. Vacationers take over during the summer with yachts and horribly fugly speedboats. They call themselves watermen and saliors....well, where are the sails, fishing poles, and trot lines??? :veryangry:
Heck, in my hometown, they don't even have their own boats. They just rent 'em out for the weekend, long enough for the ridiculous motors to drive the mercury-saturated catfish out of the area. (The mercury comes from the insane development that's taking place there, which by the way consists of vacation homes that nobody lives in half the year, made out of timber that was imported from upper New England. The trees that get cut down for those beautiful lake views get trashed.)
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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What a shame, AL. :no:

A lot of the houses in Rock Hall, and a few in Chestertown are summer homes. What a waste.

HOWEVER, the touists do give the towns a lot of business, but they could survive without it....as they did before.
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For a bit of contrast, you folks should visit Foxborough, MA. I tell you it's like living on a razors edge. There's cars, and like aeroplanes flying over, and occasionally someone knocks on our door.

Some days I get so over-excited I daren't even venture outside in case I have an anxiety attack over the exorbitant prices charged by Ye Olde Cheese Shoppe - on a Sunday as well!!!!

Life in the urban jungle isn't always pretty - last week a bird took a dump on my car. I think it was a bird, at least. But it's never dull.

Excitement is my middle name.
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Jul 22 2009, 07:00 AM
What a shame, AL. :no:

A lot of the houses in Rock Hall, and a few in Chestertown are summer homes. What a waste.

HOWEVER, the touists do give the towns a lot of business, but they could survive without it....as they did before.
It is, but I've made my peace with it. The place isn't the same place I grew up. Where I grew up isn't the same place my parents remember. Nothing stays the same in a dynamic environment.

My inability to foster an enjoyable career out of my hometown probably helps somewhat. I dunno where I'm going to end up but I know that it's not going to be back home, and it's not going to be where I am now.
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Jul 22 2009, 07:38 AM
...but I've made my peace with it. The place isn't the same place I grew up. Where I grew up isn't the same place my parents remember. Nothing stays the same in a dynamic environment.
Too true. Thomas Wolfe wrote an excellent book on that subject.

Not all change is progress. Nonetheless, all progress is change. It helps to be able to make the distinction.

Big Al
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Mikhailoh
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True, Al. One other thing I think is true is that there are really only two states for all systems -they are either growing or dying. Stasis = death.
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Jul 22 2009, 05:41 AM
Sundays were so freaking boring when I was a kid.
+1

Sunday is "family day" for Mormons. We were not allowed to go anywhere (not even as a family, lol), we couldn't play with friends and we could not watch TV during the day. Once a month we didn't even get to eat (fasting) until 3-4 in the afternoon. So, usually I'd hang out in my room and read a book or play with some toys - alone. The only thing worse would have been if my folks made me participate in additional religious observances over the already 3+ hours spent in church. We had two-hour meetings in the morning and had to come back in the evening for another hour and a half. Ugh. The only thing to look forward to was The Wonderful World of Disney and The FBI in color! and all the homemade popcorn you could eat. The one family thing I really enjoyed on a Sunday.
Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006.
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