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| Big Brother; has got his eyes on you | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 13 2009, 11:18 AM (337 Views) | |
| big al | May 13 2009, 11:18 AM Post #1 |
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Bull-Carp
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Source: Asking a Machine to Spot Threats Human Eyes Miss Big Al |
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Location: Western PA "jesu, der simcha fun der man's farlangen." -bachophile | |
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| Mark | May 13 2009, 11:25 AM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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One word. Orwell. |
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___.___ (_]===* o 0 When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells | |
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| Pianolicious | May 13 2009, 11:27 AM Post #3 |
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Senior Carp
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Big Brother is our friend. . . He keeps us safe!!! I don't know what you all are complaining about!!!
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| Sit tibi vita longa et omnia bona!!! -- Dr. Spock | |
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| Mark | May 13 2009, 11:33 AM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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___.___ (_]===* o 0 When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells | |
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| QuirtEvans | May 13 2009, 11:53 AM Post #5 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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But surely this is a libertarian's dream! Big Y is a private enterprise. They can do what they like. Employees aren't forced to work there ... they aren't slaves after all ... and shoppers aren't forced to shop there. Everybody has freedom of choice. Big Y and every other company have the freedom to adopt these sorts of practices, and since they aren't the government, a true libertarian would see nothing to complain about! |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Mark | May 13 2009, 11:57 AM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Was I complaining? I was just pointing out that this smacks of 1984. |
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| Mikhailoh | May 13 2009, 11:57 AM Post #7 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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There's something quite wrong about a grocery chain called Big Y. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| QuirtEvans | May 13 2009, 12:00 PM Post #8 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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1984 involved the government watching what you were doing in your own house. This isn't anything like that. This is a private company monitoring how its employees and customers behave on private property. 1984 is a poor analogy. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| ivorythumper | May 13 2009, 12:08 PM Post #9 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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So applying your logic of the rural pharmacy that was your test case for why a drugstore should not be permitted to withhold dispensing contraceptives, then your point about a private company doing business at it chose would apparently not apply to a rural grocer that was the only place to shop. |
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| Mark | May 13 2009, 12:12 PM Post #10 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Poor analogy or not, I was not complaining.
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| sue | May 13 2009, 12:21 PM Post #11 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Indeed. I wonder what the front of the store looks like. |
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| Mikhailoh | May 13 2009, 12:26 PM Post #12 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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I'm having a hard time keeping our threads straight. Is this the man cold thread? |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Horace | May 13 2009, 12:54 PM Post #13 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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That'd be an interesting algorithm to work on. |
| As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good? | |
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| Renauda | May 13 2009, 01:16 PM Post #14 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I don't see an issue here. If the store has a problem with ongoing employee theft (in this instance, *sweethearting* is but one form ) and this technology either deters or curtails the problem, then it is a-okay. Business, and in particular retail outlets, have every right to use whatever lawful means available to prevent theft from the premises. I see nothing Orwellian about it. |
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| QuirtEvans | May 13 2009, 02:32 PM Post #15 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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One minor problem. I'm not a libertarian. I have no problem restricting what a private party can do on their own property, if other important considerations are involved. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Mark | May 13 2009, 02:35 PM Post #16 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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You think Libertarians have a problem restricting private parties from doing something on their property if it violates the rights of others? You need a serious education on what it means to be a libertarian my friend. |
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| ivorythumper | May 13 2009, 02:52 PM Post #17 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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That probably explains why you weren't able to make a cogent libertarian argument.
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| QuirtEvans | May 13 2009, 05:51 PM Post #18 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Exactly what right does a grocery store employee have to commit theft that supersedes the grocery store's private property rights? Go ahead, edumacate me. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Mark | May 13 2009, 05:54 PM Post #19 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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WTF is wrong with you? |
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| ivorythumper | May 13 2009, 06:00 PM Post #20 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Good grief. So much for rational conversation. |
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| Frank_W | May 14 2009, 04:25 AM Post #21 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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I thought that was a restaurant with an all-you-can-eat buffet.
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| John D'Oh | May 14 2009, 04:33 AM Post #22 |
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MAMIL
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THe Big Y is the best freaking shop ever. Listen - never mind all this Orwellian sh!t - they have a child-care system. Somebody called Joe looks after my kids while I shop. They play computer games and do colouring, and I go around the store, buy a coffee, and all is well. I'm quite happy for them to monitor their employees in exchange for this service. In fact, I'd still go if I found that they forced their employees to do silly dances at gun-point if it kept my kids entertained. You guys need to get your priorities straight. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| Mark | May 14 2009, 08:45 AM Post #23 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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You know the private entity doing this is fine with me. The technology itself is what I was comparing to Orwell. It smacks of thought-crime detection. It will find its way into government. Then it will be scary and will need to be stopped. You can choose to work there or not. You can't choose an ever increasing amount of things when it comes to government. Except to kill your baby.
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| Renauda | May 14 2009, 08:51 AM Post #24 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Truth be known the R&D was probably funded by government and what you see being used industrially and commercially is a watered down version. |
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| Mark | May 14 2009, 09:07 AM Post #25 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Well then my Orwell analogy was not "poor".
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