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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 23 2009, 05:43 PM (490 Views) | |
| Jolly | Apr 23 2009, 05:43 PM Post #1 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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http://www.city-journal.org/2009/19_2_carbon.html |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 23 2009, 05:47 PM Post #2 |
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Cheers
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He telegraphs in para 2 that he's either stupid or a liar. Jolly, you need to up your game a bit. |
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| ivorythumper | Apr 23 2009, 06:05 PM Post #3 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Wanna get out the white board and diagram that one for us? |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 23 2009, 06:06 PM Post #4 |
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Cheers
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Sorry, para 3. THat lie about bankrupting the coal industry. It was a drudge fabricaiton, publicized here by LD in early Nov, and disproved in a few seconds of googling by yours truly. |
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| ivorythumper | Apr 23 2009, 06:25 PM Post #5 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Really? How do you parse his language about his aggressive cap and trade policy that would bankrupt anyone who tried to build a coal power plant? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ& |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 24 2009, 01:28 AM Post #6 |
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Cheers
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Again, it was easily debunked by taking the quote in context (SF Chron had the whole interview on their website). I don't feel like doing the research a second time just for you. You can find it easily enough by searching on LD's or my posts from the last days of October or the first days on November. The point is the author of this article is either stupid or is assuming his readers are. |
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| ivorythumper | Apr 24 2009, 01:40 AM Post #7 |
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Seemed like a pretty long section of interview to be thought of as taken out of context. I am sure that there was all sorts of clarifications and justifications and backpedaling after the fact, but he seems obviously to have said what he said -- unless of course you think the link I posted was cut and pasted and edited to distort what he actually said. That might be, given Obie's stuttering and hemming and hawing in the section I heard. And BTW, as someone recently said, "I knew you'd ignore the question, its your standard MO when someone points out flaws in your thinking."
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| jon-nyc | Apr 24 2009, 01:42 AM Post #8 |
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Cheers
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Again, it was easily debunked in context. Look it up. |
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| ivorythumper | Apr 24 2009, 01:44 AM Post #9 |
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Sorry, I don't read Daily Kos. |
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| ivorythumper | Apr 24 2009, 01:45 AM Post #10 |
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G'night Jon. I'm going to bed. |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 24 2009, 01:50 AM Post #11 |
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Cheers
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Neither do I. What does that have to do with this? The interview taken out of context by drudge came from the SF Chronicle, IIRC. |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 24 2009, 02:04 AM Post #12 |
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Cheers
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G'night, man. |
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| big al | Apr 24 2009, 09:29 AM Post #13 |
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Bull-Carp
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I wouldn't base any decisions on that article. It's a strange stew of truth, partial truth, outright lies, deceptions and magic tricks glossed over with specious examples. Big Al |
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Location: Western PA "jesu, der simcha fun der man's farlangen." -bachophile | |
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| Larry | Apr 24 2009, 09:37 AM Post #14 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Is this Obama's face and voice in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ The one where he's saying he will bankrupt the coal industry? Or..... this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwCksX9wrOA&feature=related |
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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| Luke's Dad | Apr 24 2009, 09:43 AM Post #15 |
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Emperor Pengin
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I remember the thread, and I remember you attempting to cover for Obama, but I don't remember it turning out quite the way you're claiming. |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 24 2009, 10:39 AM Post #16 |
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Cheers
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Maybe this will jog your memory. http://s10.zetaboards.com/The_New_Coffee_Room/single/?p=8070651&t=7034147 |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 24 2009, 10:47 AM Post #17 |
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Cheers
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(For those of you keeping score at home, let it be noted that my memory of these things is superior to that of LD.)
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| Larry | Apr 24 2009, 10:54 AM Post #18 |
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what about the two videos of Obama saying it? |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 24 2009, 10:55 AM Post #19 |
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Cheers
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Watch the whole video, which I linked to. Not just the bit edited by that nutter. |
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| Luke's Dad | Apr 24 2009, 11:01 AM Post #20 |
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Emperor Pengin
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You missed the follow up.
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| jon-nyc | Apr 24 2009, 11:08 AM Post #21 |
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Cheers
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That would depend greatly on how its implemented. Its a far cry from what is implied in the nutter video. |
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| Kincaid | Apr 24 2009, 11:16 AM Post #22 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Thought this was an interesting point, even if it should prove to be "truth, partial truth, outright lies, deceptions [or] magic tricks glossed over with specious examples".
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| Jolly | Apr 24 2009, 03:31 PM Post #23 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Just as CAFE wasted more energy than it saved, by being the driving force behind the creation of the SUV. |
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| Jolly | Apr 24 2009, 03:33 PM Post #24 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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From the article:
That's exactly what the man did, and the tape is there to prove it. Now, what lying sumbich says otherwise? |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 24 2009, 06:35 PM Post #25 |
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Cheers
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I think the question is what lyin' nutter edited the tape so his words would appear out of context? And which poor sap - who should know better - just accepted it uncritically? (ps- that would be you, my friend) |
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