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Boehner Admits That Waterboarding Is Torture
Topic Started: Apr 23 2009, 08:17 AM (159 Views)
QuirtEvans
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/23/boehner-memos-outline-tor_n_190547.html
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Mikhailoh
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You would interpret it that way.
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It's all wordplay. Is it pro-choice or pro-abortion? Is it pro-life or anti-choice? Is it an emergency contraception pill or an abortion pill? Is it torture or is it harsh interrogation?

I for one think the US should certainly uphold its justice system within the US, and as much as possible within the military system. But I also recognize that the military system, prisoners of war, etc...are in a different category than the average US citizen. Regardless....I think it's quite evident that within the "interrogation" realm you can have everything from painful torture to harsh methods to psychological tactics. There is a range. And it's near impossible for the military justice system (or whatever it's called) to clearly identify what's what in the eye of the media and public opinion. So this debate will continue....regardless of what they call it in the public arena.
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""It is clear from the context that Boehner was simply using liberals' verbiage to describe these interrogation techniques. The United States does not torture."
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Right on, 89th.
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QuirtEvans
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Mikhailoh
Apr 23 2009, 09:24 AM
You would interpret it that way.
HE interpreted it that way. He said, and I quote, "these memos outlining torture techniques".

It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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QuirtEvans
Apr 23 2009, 10:54 AM
Mikhailoh
Apr 23 2009, 09:24 AM
You would interpret it that way.
HE interpreted it that way. He said, and I quote, "these memos outlining torture techniques".

His spokesman said differently.
""It is clear from the context that Boehner was simply using liberals' verbiage to describe these interrogation techniques. The United States does not torture."

Is the spokesman lying? Or is he speaking out of school? Or is he clarifying what Boettner truly intended?
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QuirtEvans
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ivorythumper
Apr 23 2009, 11:05 AM
QuirtEvans
Apr 23 2009, 10:54 AM
Mikhailoh
Apr 23 2009, 09:24 AM
You would interpret it that way.
HE interpreted it that way. He said, and I quote, "these memos outlining torture techniques".

His spokesman said differently.
""It is clear from the context that Boehner was simply using liberals' verbiage to describe these interrogation techniques. The United States does not torture."

Is the spokesman lying? Or is he speaking out of school? Or is he clarifying what Boettner truly intended?
The spokesman is trying to fix Boehner's unintended but Freudian verbiage. It's quite clear what Boehner meant. He broke, in an unintended slip of the lip, a Republican policy decision never to acknowledge that the techniques under discussion are really torture.

I bet Boehner's kicking himself about it today.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Heh, you said Boehner.
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ivorythumper
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Are you saying that liberals = Freudian?

(just kidding, Quirt -- I don't agree with your interpretation or explanation, but I do think B needs to use words more carefully.)
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