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| Frank_W | Apr 22 2009, 10:28 AM Post #51 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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That worked. Okay, I'm all better, now.
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| Mikhailoh | Apr 22 2009, 10:39 AM Post #52 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| QuirtEvans | Apr 22 2009, 10:44 AM Post #53 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Sorry, Larry, but that sounds like a sore loser. That sounds like someone who doesn't want majority rule unless he's in the majority. You may think the country is headed in the wrong direction. A majority doesn't. You get your chance again in four years. Conservatives apparently need refresher course in the meaning of democracy. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Mark | Apr 22 2009, 10:46 AM Post #54 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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We are not a democracy Quirt! Why do you keep insisting that we are? |
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| Larry | Apr 22 2009, 10:46 AM Post #55 |
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You make the assumption that the majority wants what's happening. I assure you that you are quite mistaken. |
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| brenda | Apr 22 2009, 11:09 AM Post #56 |
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Both are from the same Rasmussen Reports source. (Article from today, April 22, 2009.) |
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| Mark | Apr 22 2009, 11:09 AM Post #57 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Sounds like a majority to me! |
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| QuirtEvans | Apr 22 2009, 12:30 PM Post #58 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Haven't you and Jolly insisted you don't govern by polls, you govern by elections? Election's over. You lost. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| ivorythumper | Apr 22 2009, 12:54 PM Post #59 |
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He was more of an Edwardian gentleman. But really, even if your mother was a drunk she would still be your mother and you would still love her. I never agreed with how he tried to make that point about patriotism. |
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| John D'Oh | Apr 22 2009, 01:00 PM Post #60 |
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MAMIL
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You'll love her, but you won't support what she does, I guess. Patriotism is a bit of a funny concept really. I'm probably a bit weird, having lived in three countries. Someone, who shall remain nameless, once questioned whether I had any allegiance at all.
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| ivorythumper | Apr 22 2009, 01:05 PM Post #61 |
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The Kindgom of D'Oh!! FTW!!!! |
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| QuirtEvans | Apr 22 2009, 01:10 PM Post #62 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Allow me to remind you, just a few short years ago .... A majority was against the war in Iraq. A very big majority. A HUGE majority, in fact. And George W. Bush was the least popular President since Richard Nixon. What exactly was your response, Larry, when people said that a very unpopular President shouldn't prosecute a very unpopular war? You guys said, he's the President, he was elected, election's over, he's gets to do what he thinks is right and the hell with the polls, you'll have to wait until next time and hope you do better. Sauce for the goose ... |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| John D'Oh | Apr 22 2009, 01:10 PM Post #63 |
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MAMIL
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I'd make a good king. I'd also work hard at personalising and testing Chesterton's remark to the nth degree. |
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| ivorythumper | Apr 22 2009, 01:21 PM Post #64 |
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These other nations basically grew from principalities and fiefdoms to nations. Germany, for instance or Italy. The systems are now so intertwined that surgically separating them would pose huge problems. The EU model, or NATO type alliance, could perhaps be enacted to mitigate the problems, but the American model was already shifting from federalism to centralized statism in order to promote prosperity in the 19th century, long before Lincoln. The Civil War only cemented the deal (e.g., the model and language of the American empire across the continent was a Jacksonian ideal in the 1840s). Perhaps it is overstating it that they could not survive (I agree that Alaska and Texas probably could be better off in terms of cash flow without the Feds due to energy revenues), but a balkanization of the US would be very bad economically and certainly not bloodless. |
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| ivorythumper | Apr 22 2009, 01:22 PM Post #65 |
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Getting your mother drunk?
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| QuirtEvans | Apr 22 2009, 01:34 PM Post #66 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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I can also hardly imagine Tennessee or Alaska deciding to go empire-building and take out Saddam Hussein. If the people who are talking about secession mean what they say about how important taking out Saddam was, they should think long and hard about how they'd be able to deal with the next Saddam without a U.S.-sized military. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| ivorythumper | Apr 22 2009, 01:38 PM Post #67 |
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Indeed, Quirt. The historical contingencies cannot be wished away. |
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| Renauda | Apr 22 2009, 03:19 PM Post #68 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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May help to explain why we up north are doing the exact opposite. Federalism is the way to go. |
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| Frank_W | Apr 22 2009, 03:24 PM Post #69 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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I'm kind of the same as D'oh. I've traveled all over, lived in Japan for ten years, and spent a lot of time in other countries. I love my country, eh... but I love it enough to see it clearly, too. The United States is, like any other country, not without its liabilities, dark places in its history, and has done things in forgeign policy that can be considered downright reprehensible. I'm keeping a wary eye... Given the choice/chance of emigrating to Australia, New Zealand, or a couple of other different countries, I would probably do so, and if it were a country in which English was not the native tongue, I would apply myself and pick up the target language without undue difficulty. My passport is always current, and in fact, I've been paring down a lot of personal possessions over the past couple of years. As ever, no matter what life has in store, it pays to be prepared. |
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| lb1 | Apr 22 2009, 03:30 PM Post #70 |
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I have to agree with Quirt here Larry, you lost. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I lost too, your children and mine, your grandchildren and mine, they lost also. Quirt lost also, but we realize that we lost he doesn't. lb |
| My position is simple: you jumped to an unwarranted conclusion and slung mud on an issue where none was deserved. Quirt 03/08/09 | |
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| Larry | Apr 22 2009, 07:06 PM Post #71 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Well, at least we're getting an idea of how much more ideology matters to you than the country. |
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| Larry | Apr 22 2009, 07:11 PM Post #72 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Let me be clear: I'm not saying that I'm for secession. I'm saying that states have the right to do so, even if they have to declare war to do it. I'm more in favor of replacing the federal government with a smaller, leaner one that is based on the Constitution instead of the boated, bastard child this one has become, and that any of the states that don't like that and want to cling to the abortion we have now, then instead of us seceding, we'll just kick their asses out. |
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| QuirtEvans | Apr 23 2009, 01:31 AM Post #73 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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You still haven't explained how the supposedly knowledgeable lawyers deal with the Civil War and the Texas Supreme Court case. other than to just dismiss them as wrong. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 23 2009, 02:07 AM Post #74 |
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Cheers
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I think quirt's right. Got any $5 bills in your wallet? How about a $50? |
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