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"Climate Engineering"; ...Aqua is going to love this one
Topic Started: Apr 8 2009, 01:04 PM (220 Views)
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97ECHLG1&show_article=1

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Smart geoengineering would be great but it's hard to do without getting bitten by unforeseen consequences ultimately you need to be confident that your technology means you can be adaptive enough. Artificial trees looks like a great idea to me, it's just that turning CO2 into carbon based polymer costs you energy and i don't think the chemistry is at all easy either. Still if you can do it that's great because it would effectively be a way of gradually undoing the changes to the carbon balance that we are responsible for.
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Apr 8 2009, 01:15 PM
Smart geoengineering would be great but it's hard to do without getting bitten by unforeseen consequences ultimately you need to be confident that your technology means you can be adaptive enough. Artificial trees looks like a great idea to me, it's just that turning CO2 into carbon based polymer costs you energy and i don't think the chemistry is at all easy either. Still if you can do it that's great because it would effectively be a way of gradually undoing the changes to the carbon balance that we are responsible for.
Yeah, good freaking luck. You invent an artificial tree that introduces more benefits to the environment than problems, I'll give you my comic book collection.


...which is laudable.
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No one will believe me, but human beings are the ultimate in renewable energy. Make sausage out of 'em, or if they are too old and tough for that, use 'em for fertilizer... Serious carbon credits! w00t!
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Yeah, good freaking luck. You invent an artificial tree that introduces more benefits to the environment than problems, I'll give you my comic book collection.


...which is laudable.


Any process that turns CO2 into some kind of carbon-based polymer using sunlight to balance the energy tables is an "artificial tree".

I mean a load of photosynthetic bacteria in some kind of see-through high surface area container where nutrients are continually added and waste products removed would fit the bill, presumably you could increase the rate that CO2 is sequestered using artificial mutation and selection, but I suspect an inorganic process would be the most effective - albeit a lot harder to do.

I see no reason to think it could never work reasonably well, and actually I'd expect we'll see something along those lines quite soon. The article quoted implies we can do it already but it just costs you too much. Actually it makes sense that it costs too much because it's going to cost a lot of energy to run the process and clearly it's totally pointless if you get that energy from burning fossil fuels so you have to get it from renewable energy sources and they are still relatively expensive.
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One such extreme option includes shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun's rays.


Now they are scaring me. by solving a "problem" that may not even exist we could cause a real environmental catastrophe. Well, why not? Some simple methods:

1. Use surplus hydrogen bombs to trigger major volcanic eruptions.

2. Use some more hydrogen bombs to blast dust into the stratosphere. It would be best to blow up uninhabited areas but, given the political climate, any red state will do.

3. Start a real nuclear war - the benefits are obvious.

The Church of True Believers of Global Warming may become a very dangerous organization.
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Yeah. Nuclear Winter kicks Global Warming's @ss.
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