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The Ghost of John Bolton
Topic Started: Apr 8 2009, 08:20 AM (130 Views)
QuirtEvans
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/07/AR2009040703483.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Red Rice
HOLY CARP!!!
As ye sow, so shall ye reap. (aka Payback's a b!tch.)
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

- Cecil Lewis
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"You started it."

"No, YOU started it."

"No way. YOU STARTED IT!"

Repeat as necessary.
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QuirtEvans
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Red Rice
Apr 8 2009, 11:06 AM
As ye sow, so shall ye reap. (aka Payback's a b!tch.)
I can't wait to hear the next Republican President ... and there will be a next Republican President, eventually ... squeal when he learns that rule.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Red Rice
HOLY CARP!!!
I don't think either side has a lot of credibilty. But the partisans will always take the squealing seriously.
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

- Cecil Lewis
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I really can't see much difference between the Republicans and the Democrats, anymore. :tongue:
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As far as I can tell the difference is that the Democrats say they will spend like Democrats and do, the Republicans say they will not spend like Democrats but do.
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JBryan
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I am no less enthusiastic about Republicans fillibustering presidential appointments than I was about Democrats doing the same thing. Let the President stand or fall with the people he thinks are best for his administration or give up rights to criticize him for policies as implemented by those same appointees.
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JBryan
Apr 8 2009, 05:02 PM
I am no less enthusiastic about Republicans fillibustering presidential appointments than I was about Democrats doing the same thing. Let the President stand or fall with the people he thinks are best for his administration or give up rights to criticize him for policies as implemented by those same appointees.
I agree. Advice and consent makes sense for judicial appointments since that is another branch of government that the executive and legislative both ought have a voice in, but for cabinet members and diplomats etc I can't see any meaningful advantage to having Congress telling the executive who they should hire -- the administration was already selected by the people to run the country. As we see now it is just politicking.
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Apr 8 2009, 04:45 PM
As far as I can tell the difference is that the Democrats say they will spend like Democrats and do, the Republicans say they will not spend like Democrats but do.
Or as I often put it, its the tax-and-spend democrats vs. the don't-tax-but-still-spend republicans.
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I generally agree with JB and IT on this, but with one small exception.

U.N. Ambassador (and maybe other ambassadors) might be a little different, because of their role as spokesperson for the United States in the international community. I can see the Senate wanting a little more oversight of those choices.

Secretary of State might be like that, but somehow it feels a little more like other Cabinet positions to me. I can't come up with a principled explanation for why it feels different, though.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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