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It's Good to Be Gay in Vermont
Topic Started: Apr 7 2009, 11:15 AM (453 Views)
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/07/AR2009040701663.html?hpid=topnews

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Why?
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Why not? Indeed, it's high time for the government to be out of the business of regulating who can marry whom. Honestly, I can't think of one good reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to marry.
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Or four gone, only 46 left.

Seriously though...I've said before that it's only inevitable for these rulings (and acts of legislation) to pass given the way things are set up. I just argue, as I always have, that rulings citing "it's unconstitutional" is a slippery slope considering that marriage isn't allowed for other types of unions that would also (I would argue) be considered unconstitutional.

Ultimately I think each state should define clearly (with amendments to their state constitutions as necessary) exactly what the rules are about who is allowed to get married and hopefully do so with great care and foresight, whatever that result may be.
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From the article:

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"I think we're going to look back at this week as a moment when our entire country turned a corner," said Jennifer C. Pizer, the national marriage project director for the advocacy group Lambda Legal.


I could not agree more.

At least this came from the duly elected legislature.
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Damn! I was hoping to go there on vacation, but now I'm not sure that my enormously heterosexual marriage (woof, baby!) would survive the pressure caused by this clear attempt to undermine it.
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Also from the article:

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"Vermont opened an important back door," Pizer said.


That's a regrettable line. Maybe it will end up on Leno. If I had a newspaper, it would be my headline.
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:lol2:
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I didn't know you lived in Vermont Quirt!

I also didn't know you were gay! :lol2:
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Apr 7 2009, 01:17 PM
I didn't know you lived in Vermont Quirt!

I also didn't know you were gay! :lol2:

That's why I asked why.

I was wondering how the title of the thread related to the linked story.

Does Vermont's new position on gay marriage make it good to be gay?

I doubt that many people, of any preference, determine their goodness by Vermont's new law.

I guess maybe he's assuming that gay people in Vermont don't defend traditional marriage and somehow this new law makes them good.
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Mark
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I'm with Frank on this one.

The government should stay the hell out of our personal lives. It should be up to the individual(s) and their church and foregoing a church wedding they should be able to take their vows however they please.

If the damn government did not make this an "Income Tax" issue there would be nothing to discuss except which churches and or religions allow same sex couples to wed in their place of worship.
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What about polygamy, Mark? Is that OK too?
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Yep!
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Apr 7 2009, 02:21 PM
What about polygamy, Mark? Is that OK too?
If someone wants to marry their parrot, who am I to argue?
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If the parties enter into the marriage arrangement as adults and of their own free will, who are you to tell them they cannot?
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Apr 7 2009, 02:38 PM
If the parties enter into the marriage arrangement as adults and of their own free will, who are you to tell them they cannot?
There are good practical reasons for not allowing polygamy since it tends to lead to the subjugation of women in the societies where it occurs. The women aren't being given equal rights.
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If someone's rights are being violated then that is a different story all together. It has nothing to do with someone wanting to marry multiple people. Just because such things have taken place in some polygamist relationships does not mean it happens in all.

Some men beat their solitary wife too. Should we outlaw marriage altogether?
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Apr 7 2009, 01:17 PM
I didn't know you lived in Vermont Quirt!

I also didn't know you were gay! :lol2:
I do like to frolic in Vermont, gaily.

Not gay-ly.

Not that there's anything wrong with it. I tolerate all sorts, even those who rant about income taxes. :tongue:
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No, I'm not okay with polygamy, or people marrying animals, or any other marital arrangement but between two consenting adults. This is the form that marriage commonly takes in most modern societies. The "slippery slope" argument is absurd.
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John D'Oh
Apr 7 2009, 02:33 PM
Mikhailoh
Apr 7 2009, 02:21 PM
What about polygamy, Mark? Is that OK too?
If someone wants to marry their parrot, who am I to argue?
Puts a whole new spin on 'Polly wanna cracker?'

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Apr 7 2009, 03:23 PM
No, I'm not okay with polygamy, or people marrying animals, or any other marital arrangement but between two consenting adults. This is the form that marriage commonly takes in most modern societies. The "slippery slope" argument is absurd.

most modern societies?
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Well... Occasionally, you hear of groups of people who are polyamorous. I guess they are a bit too far outside the norm though. :unsure:
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