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Not Everyone Loves the iPhone
Topic Started: Apr 7 2009, 02:17 AM (472 Views)
QuirtEvans
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/05/magazine/05wwln-medium-t.html?em

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I don't care, as long as people don't yack on them when they are supposed to be driving and paying attention to operating their vehicle and not driving like a spaz.
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Red Rice
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I like Apple products but haven't yet bought an iPhone. The AT&T service is one reason. I also find the iPhone difficult to use; the size of the screen is too small for comfortable Internet use and I think my fingers are too large for typing on the thing. I'll stick with my Blackberry for now, which I'm not too fond of either.
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I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

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Apr 7 2009, 05:40 AM
I like Apple products but haven't yet bought an iPhone. The AT&T service is one reason. I also find the iPhone difficult to use; the size of the screen is too small for comfortable Internet use and I think my fingers are too large for typing on the thing. I'll stick with my Blackberry for now, which I'm not too fond of either.
I don't like typing on the iPhone either ... my fingers are too big too ... but it gets easier, particularly if you rotate it 90 degrees.
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Apr 7 2009, 06:00 AM
... but it gets easier, particularly if you rotate it 90 degrees.
I don't know why I didn't think of that. :doh:

I'll probably end up getting one eventually, once it supports a different carrier, and if they can bump up the memory capacity a bit more; my 120GB iPod is already full.
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

- Cecil Lewis
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The woman who wrote that piece of garbage sounds like a real bitch.
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Apr 7 2009, 08:29 AM
The woman who wrote that piece of garbage sounds like a real bitch.
It's clear she's pretty full of herself, and she could have picked much better complaints than the ones she's voicing in the article, but ah well. It's the NYT. This is what's in their "news" paper.
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While I don't agree with the article I still do not see what the hype is about. The only apps that really make sense to me for a phone are:

1. phone
2. text
3. mobile email
4. gps/maps
5. music (but battery life is an issue)

What I see are folks showing me fancy apps on their iPhone - apps that they have no use for, other than to demonstrate the iPhone capabilities. So.........all of the above apps (1 though 5) are available on other phones, and were before the introduction of the iphone. In the end, the only breakthrough feature of the iPhone was the user interface - something which is now appearing on other phones (though this is obviously the problem the woman in the article had with the iPhone).

imho the majority of persons buying the iphone do so because of the hype (same reasons people buy Toyota and Honda) and not because they are personally able to come to any conclusion themselves concerning the merits of one phone over another.
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I use the camera on the iPhone a lot more than I thought I would, and I've never used a cellphone as a camera before.

The internet connection is very handy, too. If you're running late, and want to look up a phone number without paying the extortion for directory assistance ... or if you need to look up an address ... things like that. (Aside from the amusement factor of being able to read TNCR while waiting in a doctor's office.)

I also use the calendar function and alarm functions more than I thought I would.
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I have the same features with my Verizon phone.

1. phone - I hate it when it rings, most of the time. 90% of the time, I'm in a spot where I can't answer it, anyway.

2. text - Texting sucks. I have a hard time using a regular computer keyboard, let alone trying to use the microscopic buttons that come on a cellphone keyboard.

3. mobile email - I don't use it. See #2.

4. gps/maps - BFD. :shrug: A GPS isn't that big of an expense. Buy one and be done with it. :tongue:

5. music - MP3 players, iPods, and Diskmans are not that expensive. The sound quality and software interface is easier to use, too.
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Apr 7 2009, 08:49 AM

5. music - MP3 players, iPods, and Diskmans are not that expensive. The sound quality and software interface is easier to use, too.
Uh, Frank, an iPhone IS an iPod. It's basically the same as the iPod Touch, with phone features and a camera.

And, I have to say, carrying all that stuff on one device ... instead of a separate phone, iPod, camera, watch, GPS, and Palm ... is a big advantage.
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Apr 7 2009, 08:53 AM
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Apr 7 2009, 08:49 AM

5. music - MP3 players, iPods, and Diskmans are not that expensive. The sound quality and software interface is easier to use, too.
Uh, Frank, an iPhone IS an iPod. It's basically the same as the iPod Touch, with phone features and a camera.

And, I have to say, carrying all that stuff on one device ... instead of a separate phone, iPod, camera, watch, GPS, and Palm ... is a big advantage.
I agree that consolidating devices is a good move, but unfortunately for me, anything that does that with my cell phone is right out.

I don't like my phone. I don't want to give people the assumption that they can immediately get a hold of me. All it does is accelerate our insatiable demand for immediacy.

That's my thing with the iPhone and why I won't buy one. But I realize this is a personal preference and I don't hold it against the company.

What I do hold against the company, is the totally hypocritical horse**** they fling about regarding the apps. Hey Apple, you think apps are so great on the phone, stop bricking people's phones after they create their own to suit their needs!!!
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Okay.... So... I'm cruising along, using my GPS, and the phone rings. NOW what? :lol2:

I'm listening to a song that I really love, and the phone rings. DAMMIT!!

:lol2:

I think the consolidation is a cool idea, and Quirt, I didn't know it was basically an iPod, but it certainly doesn't surprise me that they are having battery issues with it.
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So the author of the article hasn't figured out how to type on the iPhone -- and thus hates the iPhone. Ok. I can just imagine this author a la Andy Rooney cursing at programming their TIVO too.




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Apr 7 2009, 08:49 AM
4. gps/maps - BFD. :shrug: A GPS isn't that big of an expense. Buy one and be done with it. :tongue:
I have a GPS in my car, but what about when you're out of town or on foot? We used the iPhone a lot in Seattle. It gave us driving or walking directions, helped us locate businesses near us, gave us real time traffic flow, etc. And that's just the google maps portion. I used apps as well for many other things, including restaurant recommendations.

The lady at the rental car placed asked if we wanted a GPS unit for an extra $11 - $15 a day, I forget the amount. I said, No thanks, I have an iPhone!
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Hrmmm... Yes, I can see how that would be useful, MS. I have one on my phone too. I've never had reason to use it, though. (Everyone tells me just where to go.) :hide:
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Apr 7 2009, 09:10 AM
Hrmmm... Yes, I can see how that would be useful, MS. I have one on my phone too. I've never had reason to use it, though. (Everyone tells me just where to go.) :hide:
This is another personal gripe of mine: people rely too much on those things. GPS devices that is. An address can tell you a whole lot about itself before you even look it up, if you pay attention. It's a good skill to have.

Like all things, I think a GPS device has its place. But like most things, we tend to abuse the hell out of them and use them when they're not needed.
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Apr 7 2009, 09:13 AM
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Apr 7 2009, 09:10 AM
Hrmmm... Yes, I can see how that would be useful, MS. I have one on my phone too. I've never had reason to use it, though. (Everyone tells me just where to go.) :hide:
This is another personal gripe of mine: people rely too much on those things. GPS devices that is. An address can tell you a whole lot about itself before you even look it up, if you pay attention. It's a good skill to have.

Like all things, I think a GPS device has its place. But like most things, we tend to abuse the hell out of them and use them when they're not needed.
So you're in a new city and trying to get somewhere at a particular time, and tough crap, figure out the address yourself? Why not GPS it?

When I first moved to this city, I needed the GPS a lot until I learned the layout of the roads. Now I rarely use it.
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Give me a map, protractor, a lensatic compass, and a set of grid coordinates, and I can find ANYTHING.

Put me in a vehicle on the roads, and I am hopeless. That's why I have a dedicated GPS in the Jeep, and I've rigged up the RAM mount for that unit so I can use it on the motorcycle, too.
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I has a tuner on my iPhone. My piano tech was amazed at the functionality of the tuner which has about 90% of the functions his way more expensive one has.

I use it all the time too.
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Apr 7 2009, 09:19 AM
So you're in a new city and trying to get somewhere at a particular time, and tough crap, figure out the address yourself? Why not GPS it?

When I first moved to this city, I needed the GPS a lot until I learned the layout of the roads. Now I rarely use it.
If you have some kind of appointment in an area you're unfamiliar with, then yes, absolutely use a GPS. That's what I mean about using the device when the situation calls for one.

But if for example I was learning a new area, I'd not ever use one. Mental road maps are much more detailed and reliable than anything a map or computer could provide for you.
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Apr 7 2009, 09:23 AM
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Apr 7 2009, 09:19 AM
So you're in a new city and trying to get somewhere at a particular time, and tough crap, figure out the address yourself? Why not GPS it?

When I first moved to this city, I needed the GPS a lot until I learned the layout of the roads. Now I rarely use it.
If you have some kind of appointment in an area you're unfamiliar with, then yes, absolutely use a GPS. That's what I mean about using the device when the situation calls for one.

But if for example I was learning a new area, I'd not ever use one. Mental road maps are much more detailed and reliable than anything a map or computer could provide for you.
Then that's great for you.

But if I'm learning a new area, I GPS my directions. The GPS shows me the overall map while giving me directions -- so I can see how the roads relate to each other. I'm also more relaxed and able to take in landmarks and other visual cues.
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Apr 7 2009, 09:26 AM
Then that's great for you.

But if I'm learning a new area, I GPS my directions. The GPS shows me the overall map while giving me directions -- so I can see how the roads relate to each other. I'm also more relaxed and able to take in landmarks and other visual cues.
It's great indeed. Like I said, it's a personal gripe, not an "everyone should do what I do" one. ^_^ Maps are crap; they've screwed me over too many times in the past for me to trust them over experience.
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Obviously a chick wrote that article. She doesn't want a phone, she wants a fulfilling relationship.
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