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Electronic System for Travel Authorization
Topic Started: Mar 29 2009, 03:33 AM (449 Views)
Klaus
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HOLY CARP!!!
I've just, for the zillionth time - but now online for the first time - filled out a form with questions
that I am required to answer before I can enter the US (I'm going to Orlando and Boston in May).

These questions include:

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A) Do you have a communicable disease; physical or mental disorder; or are you a drug abuser or addict? *
B) Have you ever been arrested or convicted for an offense or crime involving moral turpitude or a violation related to a controlled substance; or have been arrested or convicted for two or more offenses for which the aggregate sentence to confinement was five years or more; or have been a controlled substance trafficker; or are you seeking entry to engage in criminal or immoral activities? *
C) Have you ever been or are you now involved in espionage or sabotage; or in terrorist activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and 1945 were you involved , in any way, in persecutions associated with Nazi Germany or its allies? *
D) Are you seeking to work in the U.S.; or have you ever been excluded and deported; or been previously removed from the United States or procured or attempted to procure a visa or entry into the U.S. by fraud or misrepresentation? *
E) Have you ever detained, retained or withheld custody of a child from a U.S. citizen granted custody of the child? *
F) Have you ever been denied a U.S. visa or entry into the U.S. or had a U.S. visa canceled?


What good are these questions? In most cases, the answers cannot be verified anyway - has anyone ever answered "yes" to any of these questions?
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jon-nyc
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Cheers
Did you pack your own bags? Were they out of your possession at any point? Did anyone give you anything to take on board the aircraft?
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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Klaus
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HOLY CARP!!!
jon-nyc
Mar 29 2009, 03:36 AM
Did you pack your own bags? Were they out of your possession at any point? Did anyone give you anything to take on board the aircraft?
These are at least somewhat reasonable questions, but:

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are you seeking entry to engage in criminal or immoral activities?


What kind of question is that? WTF!??
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QuirtEvans
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Here's the reason, as I understand it, Klaus.

If you're in the U.S. legally, and then you commit a crime, you are entitled to the benefit of the U.S. legal system.

If, however, you are not in the U.S. legally, you are deportable.

And, if you've answered any question on the visa application untruthfully, you are not in the U.S. legally, and are therefore deportable.

I think that's the purpose of the questions, anyway.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Klaus
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QuirtEvans
Mar 29 2009, 03:59 AM
Here's the reason, as I understand it, Klaus.

If you're in the U.S. legally, and then you commit a crime, you are entitled to the benefit of the U.S. legal system.

If, however, you are not in the U.S. legally, you are deportable.

And, if you've answered any question on the visa application untruthfully, you are not in the U.S. legally, and are therefore deportable.

I think that's the purpose of the questions, anyway.
OK, but why then not just say "...and with this signature I certify that I do not intend to engage in crime or have decent sex immoral activities"? Why is there even an option to say "yes, I intend to engage in criminal activities"?

And what the heck does a term like "immoral activities" do in a legal document?
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1hp
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Do you have a communicable disease; physical or mental disorder; or are you a drug abuser or addict?


Oh, that's how they're keeping out foreign liberals. :sombrero:
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