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And now the real reason for the "global warming"; issue. I warned you. Say goodbye America
Topic Started: Mar 27 2009, 11:42 AM (207 Views)
Larry
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I told you. You laughed. Now, here it is - the *real* reason behind the "man made global warming" myth:

U.N. 'Climate Change' Plan Would Likely Shift Trillions to Form New World Economy

A United Nations document on "climate change" that will be distributed to a major environmental conclave next week envisions a huge reordering of the world economy, likely involving trillions of dollars in wealth transfer, millions of job losses and gains, new taxes, industrial relocations, new tariffs and subsidies, and complicated payments for greenhouse gas abatement schemes and carbon taxes — all under the supervision of the world body.

Those and other results are blandly discussed in a discretely worded United Nations "information note" on potential consequences of the measures that industrialized countries will likely have to take to implement the Copenhagen Accord, the successor to the Kyoto Treaty, after it is negotiated and signed by December 2009. The Obama administration has said it supports the treaty process if, in the words of a U.S. State Department spokesman, it can come up with an "effective framework" for dealing with global warming.


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Red Rice
HOLY CARP!!!
No worries. The Chinese will never go for it.
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

- Cecil Lewis
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Frank_W
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Neither will India or Pakistan.
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Mikhailoh
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Oh, they might go for it - if the wealth transfer goes to them.

http://www.mb.com.ph/node/199329

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China wants payment for cutting pollution

March 18, 2009, 9:00amWASHINGTON (DPA) - The world's wealthiest nations should pay for China to cut its pollution coming from exports, Chinese officials said Monday amid sensitive talks with the United States on how to reach a new deal to combat global warming.

China - the world's largest polluter together with the United States - has a plan in place to reduce greenhouse gas emissions blamed for global warming even as its economy grows rapidly, said Li Gao, director of China's department of climate change.

But in a sign of the tough barriers remaining to a new global deal on cutting those emissions, Li said China would hold rich nations responsible for between 15 percent to 25 pe cent of its emissions that come from manufacturing goods made for export.

The cost of reducing those emissions ''should be taken by the consumers, but not the producers,'' Li told a forum by the non- partisan Pew Centre on Global Climate Change. He added that wealthy nations like the US and Japan should ''bear in mind the historical responsibility'' for causing global warming.

His comments came as China's top climate official, Vice Chairman Xie Zhenhua, met the US' top climate negotiator Todd Stern on Monday in Washington. State Department spokesman Robert Wood called it a ''productive meeting'' but said the talks marked only ''the beginning of the process.''

The US and China are considered crucial to the success of any new deal, but Japan's climate envoy - also in Washington for talks - said a global agreement was unlikely to be reached by a December summit in Copenhagen, which has been billed as the final round of talks.

Shinsuke Sugiyama, director general for global issues at Japan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, told the Pew forum it was important to be ''realistic'' and unlikely that ''everything is going to be wrapped up'' by the Copenhagen deadline. He still called 2009 a ''make or break year'' for global climate policy.

Stern also met separately with European environment officials, who have been pushing the US and China for more ambitious targets on tackling global warming.

President Barack Obama has promised to slash greenhouse gas emissions in the United States by about 15 per cent by 2020 and is gearing up for a difficult battle with Congress over a plan to force US companies to pay for their climate-damaging pollution.

But Obama has also said major emerging economies will have to take responsibility for their own growing pollution levels. The United States stayed out of the 1997 Kyoto Protocol largely because it only limited the emissions of advanced economies.

Li noted that China's emissions ranked only 92nd in the world over the last century, and that its per capita emissions were only one- fifth that of the United States.
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Red Rice
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Mikhailoh
Mar 27 2009, 12:44 PM
Oh, they might go for it - if the wealth transfer goes to them.

Won't happen. China is the U.S.'s biggest creditor. Us giving them money is as unthinkable as taxpayers giving cash bonuses to wealthy Wall Street executives.
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

- Cecil Lewis
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Kincaid
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HOLY CARP!!!
I totally agree with the idea that China should charge others for limiting pollution - just like we did here. Mandate pollution controls, Chinese industries can implement those controls with expensive technology upgrades and those Chinese companies can recoup the cost by increasing what they charge for their goods. Capitalism FTW!
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