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Ah, nuts. Dirty Job - and what is honest work.; (graphic video warning)
Topic Started: Mar 26 2009, 06:56 AM (339 Views)
George K
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A seven minute clip from "Dirty Jobs" on sheep castration. I found it "interesting" to watch, to say the least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QErgjt_GYBk



But even more interesting was Mike Rowe's explanation of why they do it they way they do. This is his talk at TED on honest hard work, political correctness, SPCA, etc. Very interesting. And yeah, he talks about castrating lambs and all that. If you've got 20 minutes, it's an interesting talk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRVdiHu1VCc



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Um. Now there is one link I will not click on or even have any temptation to do so. I'm going back to the word association thread.....
"Perhaps the thing to do is just to let stupid run its course." Aqua
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brenda
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Watched both of them and enjoyed learning from both.

If you are too queasy to watch the first one, the second one is good all on its own, nothing graphic as far as visuals.
“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
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Frank_W
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Both of them are excellent, and I couldn't agree more with this talk in the second video. :thumb:
Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin."
Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!"
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i'm surprised that D'oh has not chimed in.
it behooves me to behold
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brenda
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He must not be aware.
“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
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PattyP
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Thanks, George. That was fabulous.

The first video was a hoot.

I've heard about biting to castrate but I thought it was a gag (no pun intended).

The only thing that surprised me a little was not cauterizing the wounds.
Must not have too many incidents of infection.

A tired dog is a good dog.

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Mar 26 2009, 12:47 PM
i'm surprised that D'oh has not chimed in.
Typing one-handed is a lot slower.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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George K
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PattyP
Mar 26 2009, 03:53 PM
Thanks, George. That was fabulous.

The first video was a hoot.

I've heard about biting to castrate but I thought it was a gag (no pun intended).

The only thing that surprised me a little was not cauterizing the wounds.
Must not have too many incidents of infection.
(Jodi can confirm this)

About 8 years ago, I spent a couple of days with our equine vet. One of the calls was to geld a couple of stud colts.

Here was the procedure:

Sedate the animal (intravenous injection into the jugular vein - I did that), and wait for the horse to lie down.

When he's sleeping, an incision is made down the center of the scrotum and an emasculator (graphic image warning) is put on the spermatic cord. It's left on for a few minutes, the cord is cut, and the emasculator is removed.

The scrotum is not closed, and allowed to bleed. The bleeding stops quickly, and a bunch of raw tissue is exposed. Because of the rich blood supply, infections rarely occur. The horse is allowed to awaken, and he staggers trots off, wondering what happened.

It is tradition, then, then, to take the testicle and hurl it over the roof of the barn for good luck.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
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Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

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Jolly
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George K
Mar 26 2009, 04:29 PM
PattyP
Mar 26 2009, 03:53 PM
Thanks, George. That was fabulous.

The first video was a hoot.

I've heard about biting to castrate but I thought it was a gag (no pun intended).

The only thing that surprised me a little was not cauterizing the wounds.
Must not have too many incidents of infection.
(Jodi can confirm this)

About 8 years ago, I spent a couple of days with our equine vet. One of the calls was to geld a couple of stud colts.

Here was the procedure:

Sedate the animal (intravenous injection into the jugular vein - I did that), and wait for the horse to lie down.

When he's sleeping, an incision is made down the center of the scrotum and an emasculator (graphic image warning) is put on the spermatic cord. It's left on for a few minutes, the cord is cut, and the emasculator is removed.

The scrotum is not closed, and allowed to bleed. The bleeding stops quickly, and a bunch of raw tissue is exposed. Because of the rich blood supply, infections rarely occur. The horse is allowed to awaken, and he staggers trots off, wondering what happened.

It is tradition, then, then, to take the testicle and hurl it over the roof of the barn for good luck.
Or on a cow, you can just crush them...
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Frank_W
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Uh... That would be a bull, or else it would be an udder failure. ;)
Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin."
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Horace
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Thanks for the links George, loved that second one! Once a couple came up to me on the BART train and told me I looked like Mike Rowe.
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George K
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I was amazed at how articulate and well-thought out his statements were.
A guide to GKSR: Click

"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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Horace
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yeah and he's got a great voice. Very likable guy.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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Frank_W
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I'm betting that the speech he gave on Ted Talks, was something that's been on his mind and heart for some time -- perhaps a whole baseline philosophy that he's been living by, and the main basis for the show, "Dirty Jobs."

Just a hunch...
Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin."
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Horace
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Did he create that show?
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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brenda
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He's a terrific speaker. This topic seems right from the heart for him, too.
“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
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Frank_W
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Mar 26 2009, 06:18 PM
Did he create that show?
I don't know... I wouldn't be surprised if he had.
Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin."
Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!"
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Horace
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Yep, seems he did:

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The show is a spin-off of a segment host Mike Rowe once did on a local San Francisco program called Somebody's Gotta Do It
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PattyP
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Mar 26 2009, 05:34 PM
Uh... That would be a bull, or else it would be an udder failure. ;)
Good catch, Frank.

Jolly, my friend, me thinks you've been pwnd. :lol:

A tired dog is a good dog.

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Frank_W
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Be a man: Go running up behind the bull and kick him in the nuts as hard as you can. And then RUN!!! :lol2:
Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin."
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George K
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Mike Rowe talks about the AIG Bonuses with a reader of his blog:

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Quote: We were lucky enough to get quarterly bonuses for the last two years. This was in lieu of a hourly raise. When things in the company got tight, bonuses were cut. It wasn’t so difficult to adjust to, though, because it wasn’t money we were used to having every paycheck. It was BONUS. I’m thinking this is the way bonuses should be.


Hi Terra

Many people share your view, which makes me think a better term than “bonus” should be used to refer to these payouts. For many, a “bonus” is not an unexpected surprise. It is the motivating factor, and the only reason the working relationship exists at all. It is in other words, it’ the very essence of the deal.

Because these “bonuses” are not guaranteed, they are a reflection of an individual’s willingness to assume a certain level of risk that most salaried workers would go out of their way to avoid. Likewise, “bonuses” are the only way for highly competitive corporations to attract and compensate “top talent.” Arguing over whether the money in question is gross or exorbitant is beside the point and after the fact, in my opinion. So too, is the exact manner in which it’s earned. That’s between the employer and the employee, and governed by the terms of the deal. What really matters, is the workers conscious willingness to forgo a big guarantee, in favor of a potentially larger payout based on his or her performance. It’s an entirely different form of risk, that is the opposite of a weekly or monthly paycheck.

My Dad asked me this morning what I would do if I were an AIG banker who received a big bonus in this environment. Would I return it?

I opened my mouth to say “probably,” but what came out was “hmmm…”
To be honest, (perhaps too honest,) it got me thinking. Here’s where I am.

If, as a contracted employee who signed on for the sole purpose of making money, I did everything I was supposed to do to earn a payout of $5 million dollars, I would expect to be paid. I assumed a level of risk, and preformed as asked. A deal is a deal. The only circumstance that could justify a non-payment, would be the bankruptcy of the firm. (That’s the biggest part of the risk I assumed, working in a volatile and competitive industry.) However, if the company stays in business, or is not allowed to fail, I’d absolutely expect my money. And if I got it, and was then suddenly asked to return it because the government realized it looked politically stupid and fiscally foolish for subsidizing my big fat bonus with taxpayer money, I might be inclined to say “I’m sorry, but I’m a tax-payer too. If you didn’t want to pay me what I was legally owed, you should have let the company fail. My deal was with AIG, not you.”

This “bonus rage” would not be happening in a world that respected consequences, because in that world, those companies who can not afford to pay their bills would simply fail, the way they’re supposed to. Likewise, all citizens would live the lifestyle they can afford, the way they’re supposed to. Of course, that is not the world we live in. In fact, companies like AIG have prospered exactly because so many people now live beyond their means. The hard truth is, those big bonuses were earned because AIG got rich saying “yes” to millions of people who should have been told “no.” And because we’re all connected, we all get hurt.

AIG, and many companies like them, removed from the credit equation the time honored constants of “collateral” and “character.” We are now beginning to realize the consequences of doing that, and we’re scared. In fact, we are horrified by the prospect of letting it all unravel. So we are going to try and defy the laws of cause and effect. We will ignore for a time the consequences of greed, stupidity, and immediate gratification. Maybe, in the short run, we’ll succeed. But I wonder, what will be the consequences of that success?

Kathy asked in another thread I think, what I thought about the expression “too big to fail.” I think it’s perhaps the silliest expression I’ve ever heard. If history and physics tell us anything, it’s the guaranteed failure of all things, including companies, countries, people, and entire civilizations. (Packard? The USSR? George Burns? Rome?) No one and nothing is too big to fail. How dare we forget something so basic?

We are obsessed with the consequences of a world without AIG. We are scared to let them fail. Why aren’t we just as scared to keep them around? Why aren’t we more scared?

Pet Cemetery was on the other night. Remember that creepy cat? And that little boy, Gage? They were brought back to life, remember? That wasn’t supposed to happen. That’s cheating. Consequently, there was some rather serious fallout.

Yeah, that’s right folks. I just compared AIG to a reanimated zombie in a Stephen King story.

Because frankly, I’m not sure which is scarier.

Mike

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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

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- Klaus, 4/29/18
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