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Stimulus details; ...where?
Topic Started: Feb 18 2009, 03:53 PM (151 Views)
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Honestly...it shouldn't be the hard to find the actual text of the stimulus plan. Anyone have a good resource?
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Quantum - that's perfect. Those PDFs aren't exactly 508-compliant, but they'll do. I was specifically looking at the first-time home buyer tax credit details. It seems it only mentions amendments to the current tax credits by increasing the time from expiring July 2009 to expiring December 2009, and also increasing the limits a bit or something like that. Time to track down the referenced jibber-jabba.
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Well that BS - you have to repay it! Or as they call it..."recapture".

Taxes are BS.
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Most depressing documents. My first question - today is Feb 18 - Obama was sworn in on Jan 20 - how could anyone write such documents (you have to read it some) in less than 4 weeks? When I say write, I mean come up with some ideas, flesh them out so they make sense, put them into writing, and have some debate on them. Bear in mind this is supposed to be a bailout stimulus package, and Obama didn't really have access to full White House staff, not to mention Congress , before Jan 20.

Then just open a page and start reading - page 425 of Part A:

TITLE XIV-STATE FISCAL
2 STABILIZATION FUND
3 DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
4 STATE FISCAL STABILIZATION FUND
5 For necessary expenses for a State Fiscal Stabiliza-
6 tion Fund, $53,600,000,000, which shall be administered
7 by the Department of Education.


Bear in mind that schools are run by cities and counties, so that is where the administration staff is. Now the Federal Dept of Education is going to build an administrative staff to handle $53.6 billion?

Page 133:

TITLE VII-INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT, AND
2 RELATED AGENCIES
3 DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
4 BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT
5 MANAGEMENT OF LANDS AND RESOURCES
6 For an additional amount for "Management of Lands
7 and Resources", for activities on all Bureau of Land Man
8 agement lands including maintenance, rehabilitation, and
9 restoration of facilities, property, trails and lands and for
10 remediation of abandoned mines and wells, $125,000,000.


This is a stimulus package?

3 FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION
4 SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FOR FACILITIES AND
5 EQUIPMENT
6 For an additional amount for necessary investments
7 III Federal Aviation Administration infrastructure,
8 $200,000,000, to remain available through September 30,
9 2010: Provided, That funding provided under this heading
10 shall be used to make improvements to power systems, air
11 route traffic control centers, air traffic control towers, ter
12 minal radar approach control facilities, and navigation and
13 landing equipment: Provided further, That priority be
14 given to such projects or activities that will be completed
15 within 2 years of enactment qf this Act: Provided further,
16 That amounts made available under this heading may be
17 provided through grants in addition to the other instru
18 ments authorized under section 106(1)(6) of title 49,
19 United States Code: Provided further, That the Federal
20 share of the costs for which an expenditure is made under
21 this heading shall be 100 percent: Provided further, That
22 amounts provided under this heading may be used for ex
23 penses the agency incurs in administering this program:
24 Provided further, That not more than 60 days after enact
25 ment of this Act, the Administrator shall establish a proc
1 ess for applying, reviewing and awarding grants and coop-
2 erative and other transaction agreements, including the
3 form and content of an application, and requirements for
4 the maintenance of records that are necessary to facilitate
5 an effective audit of the use of the funding provided: Pro
6 vided further, That section 50101 of title 49, United
7 States Code, shall apply to funds provided under this
8 heading.


$200 million to the FAA - and they can use as much as they want for administration costs? How did they come up with FAA repairs in less than 4 weeks? Shouldn't the state of the FAA, and the nations air traffic, be a separate issue before Congress. With this little attention it will be decrepit in 2 years.


1 TITLE XII-TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING
2 AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, AND RELATED
3 AGENCIES
4 DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
5 OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY
6 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCRETIONARY GRANTS FOR A
7 NATIONAL SURFACE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM
8 For an additional amount for capital investments in
9 surface transportation infrastructure, $1,500,000,000, to
10 remain available through September 30, 2011: Provided,
11 That the Secretary of Transportation shall distribute
12 funds provided under this heading as discretionary grants
13 to be awarded to State and local governments or transit
14 agencies on a competitive basis for projects that will have
15 a significant impact on the Nation, a metropolitan area,
16 or a region: Provided further, That projects eligible for
17 funding provided under this heading shall include, but not
18 be limited to, highway or bridge projects eligible under
19 title 23, United States Code, including interstate rehabili
20 tation, improvements to the rural collector road system,
21 the reconstruction of overpasses and interchanges, bridge
22 replacements, seismic retrofit projects for bridges, and
23 road realignments; public transportation projects eligible
24 under chapter 53 of title 49, United States Code, includ
25 ing investments in projects participating in the New Start
1 or Small Starts programs that will expedite the completion
2 of those projects and their entry into revenue service; pas
3 senger and freight rail transportation projects; and port
4 infrastructure investments, including projects that connect
5 ports to other modes of transportation and improve the
6 efficiency of freight movement: Provided further, That of
7 the amount made available under this paragraph, the Sec
8 retary may use an amount not to exceed $200,000,000
9 for the purpose of paying the subsidy and administrative
10 costs of projects
eligible for federal credit assistance under
11 chapter 6 of title 23, United States Code, if the Secretary
12 finds that such use of the funds would advance the pur
13 poses of this paragraph: Provided further, That in distrib
14 uting funds provided under this heading, the Secretary
15 shall take such measures so as to ensure an equitable geo
16 graphic distribution of funds and an appropriate balance
17 in addressing the needs of urban and rural communities:
18 Provided further, That a grant funded under this heading
19 shall be not less than $20,000,000 and not greater than
20 $300,000,000: Provided further, That the Secretary may
21 waive the minimum grant size cited in the preceding pro
22 viso for the purpose of funding significant projects in
23 smaller cities, regions, or States: Provided further, That
24 not more than 20 percent of the funds made available
25 under this paragraph may be awarded to projects in a sin
blah, blah, blah....


$1.5 billion to repair road infrastructure, with up to $200 million for administrative costs ?????? WTF? The FAA alon got $200 million, and they allocated only $1.5 billion to fix the roads across the whole United States??

Pages 286 through 425 (part A document only contains 496 pages) covers Health Care - the stuff that's in there must be a resurrection of Hilary's from years ago - no way they can come up with that much detail in 4 weeks.
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George K
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It's an emergency.

Don't you get it?

Sheesh. They had to drag a Senator from his mom's funeral to get this thing voted on on Friday night.

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As far as I'm concerned an emergency is when friends turn up unexpectedly on my doorstep and I don't have sufficient beer. Poor planning by the Government does not constitute an emergency for me. :sombrero:
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Bear in mind that schools are run by cities and counties, so that is where the administration staff is. Now the Federal Dept of Education is going to build an administrative staff to handle $53.6 billion?


Not always, here the role of cities and counties is very separate from the school districts.
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