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Saponification experts
Topic Started: Feb 18 2009, 10:45 AM (442 Views)
brenda
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Those of you who do it, tell me about the soaps you make. I have considered trying it, but I don't know if it would be worth the time.

What kinds do you make?
Favorites?
How much time does it take?
How often do you make soap?
Is it worth the time to make it for a family of three, or would it be just as well to buy from others?
Other things you've learned about it?

Thanks in advance!
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Go here for great info to start....http://www.thesage.com/

I made batches each fall but now lye is hard to buy and oil prices have skyrocketed. Do it because it is fun, you won't save money.
It is dangerous so make batches when kids are out of the house.

Mr. Beelady made me molds that hold 5 pounds. 10lbs is a year supply for us.

Fav's are those with essential oils rather than perfumes....orange, oatmeal/honey, peppermint my favs...

Greatest tool you can use to get to saponification is a stick blender.
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Soap making is bizarrely popular where I am. Go to one of the craft fairs here, and every second table, someone is selling homemade artsy-fartsy, cutesy, new age sounding soaps. Looking out my window here at work, I can see three places that sell homemade soap. A good lunch is harder to find. We're either extraordinarily obsessed with cleanliness, or extraordinarily in need of cleanliness.
There's some nice stuff, to be sure, but after a bit, a good old, inexpensive bar of plain, unscented Dove is a welcome change. The homemade soaps tend to get very gloopy.
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I had to look that one up:

Saponification is the hydrolysis of an ester under basic conditions to form an alcohol and the salt of a carboxylic acid (carboxylates).

OK... :help:

Saponification is commonly used to refer to the reaction of a metallic alkali (base) with a fat or oil to form soap.

Ah!

Saponifiable substances are those that can be converted into soap.

Who knew!?
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I was okay with red cookies, but I shy away from the bright green Irish Spring soap that my husband uses. What that can do to a person, no one knows....

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Feb 18 2009, 11:08 AM
I was okay with red cookies, but I shy away from the bright green Irish Spring soap that my husband uses. What that can do to a person, no one knows....

It smells good. (My first boyfriend used Irish Spring so the scent of it brings back fond memories.)
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RosemaryTwo
Feb 18 2009, 11:08 AM
I was okay with red cookies, but I shy away from the bright green Irish Spring soap that my husband uses. What that can do to a person, no one knows....

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The green means it's natural and fresh and good for you.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Feb 18 2009, 11:32 AM
The green means it's natural and fresh and good for you.
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Here. Have some toast.
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TomK
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I make laundry detergent commercially. Where I would do saponification is to mix large quantities of liquid caustic soda and sodium sillicate in a bath with cloth napkins and turn the grease in the napkins to soap and then wash the naplin in that (and further added) soap. It's called the breaking process and the alkali is called a builder.

I don't do the washing (I used to,) I just provide the chemicals.
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Phlebas
Feb 18 2009, 11:48 AM
Aqua Letifer
Feb 18 2009, 11:32 AM
The green means it's natural and fresh and good for you.
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Here. Have some toast.
Speaking of toast, I have a funny saponification story. My mother, a child of the depression wasted not for wanting to not want. :whome: Anyway, she saved all of the bacon grease in a coffee can, and when she accumulated enough she made a batch of soap. We didn't use it for bathing (thankfully, as it didn't smell great and was kind of harsh), but she used it for laundry. One day, she had made a batch and had poured it into an 9 x 12 inch cake pan. Once it set, she would cut it into bars. That day, my sister's annoying little friend came to the house - she was maybe 8 or 9 and a bit of a spit fire, but kind of like part of the family. She looked at the pan and asked what it was with a hungry look in her eyes. I told her it was cheese, so she proceeded to cut off a piece and give it a try. Yum! :bluetongue:
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Phlebas
Feb 18 2009, 11:48 AM
Aqua Letifer
Feb 18 2009, 11:32 AM
The green means it's natural and fresh and good for you.
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Here. Have some toast.
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Feb 18 2009, 11:48 AM
Aqua Letifer
Feb 18 2009, 11:32 AM
The green means it's natural and fresh and good for you.
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Here. Have some toast.
Exactly. Penicillin is good for you.
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Bernard
Feb 18 2009, 11:03 AM
I had to look that one up:

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Who knew!?
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Thanks, Beelady! I think you're right about not saving $$ by making it myself.
Hubby and daughter like to use shampoo bars instead of liquid shampoo, so I buy those on-line as well as handmade soaps. Those are a little more pricey. I try to get good deals when I buy soaps on-line, so I don't know that it would save money to make it. I buy pounds of it at a time, not just an individual bar at a time.

Sue, it seems the secret to non-gloopy handmade soap is to let it harden a loooong time. The makers sell it too fresh. It needs to age. The other thing is to have a good tray for the soap between uses, one that allows airflow on all sides.

Hubby has sensitive skin, so I pamper him. :baby:



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Whut's soap?
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brenda
Feb 18 2009, 02:55 PM
Thanks, Beelady! I think you're right about not saving $$ by making it myself.



Whatever soap you buy--the container the soap come is is ALWAYS more expensive than what's inside.
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My mum made soap for a long time because my dad couldn't tolerate anything on the market. My favourites were her goat's milk oatmeal and coffee soap, which is fantastic for the kitchen because it gets garlic smell off the hands.
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TomK
Feb 18 2009, 03:35 PM
brenda
Feb 18 2009, 02:55 PM
Thanks, Beelady! I think you're right about not saving $$ by making it myself.



Whatever soap you buy--the container the soap come is is ALWAYS more expensive than what's inside.
I usually buy it unpackaged or in only a simple plastic wrap, nothing fancy. I have found a couple sellers who let me buy their miscuts. Since I am not fussy about the shape of the soap, that makes it less expensive.

Sometimes I get several pounds of soap wrapped in a plastic grocery bag from one seller. None too fancy, but the price is right! :lol2:
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Feb 18 2009, 04:19 PM
My mum made soap for a long time because my dad couldn't tolerate anything on the market. My favourites were her goat's milk oatmeal and coffee soap, which is fantastic for the kitchen because it gets garlic smell off the hands.
Goatsmilk makes for good soaps! I had never tried any of this stuff until a couple years ago. Now it's pretty much all we use, that and olive oil soaps.
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brenda
Feb 18 2009, 02:55 PM


Sue, it seems the secret to non-gloopy handmade soap is to let it harden a loooong time. The makers sell it too fresh. It needs to age. The other thing is to have a good tray for the soap between uses, one that allows airflow on all sides.





And a good recipe... the ones that use more lye leave less oils unprocessed and make for harder bars but harsher as well.

Besides, trolling local potters for good, draining dishes is half the fun!
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And I will spin so fine, so strong a thread
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TomK
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brenda
Feb 18 2009, 04:47 PM
TomK
Feb 18 2009, 03:35 PM
brenda
Feb 18 2009, 02:55 PM
Thanks, Beelady! I think you're right about not saving $$ by making it myself.



Whatever soap you buy--the container the soap come is is ALWAYS more expensive than what's inside.
I usually buy it unpackaged or in only a simple plastic wrap, nothing fancy. I have found a couple sellers who let me buy their miscuts. Since I am not fussy about the shape of the soap, that makes it less expensive.

Sometimes I get several pounds of soap wrapped in a plastic grocery bag from one seller. None too fancy, but the price is right! :lol2:
I can make shampoo, very good shampoo too, by the truckload but my daughter will only have some salon bought stuff for $25.00.

It's really all quite similar--but they can tell the difference. I use the half empty bottles they discard.
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Feb 19 2009, 02:15 PM
I can make shampoo, very good shampoo too, by the truckload but my daughter will only have some salon bought stuff for $25.00.

It's really all quite similar--but they can tell the difference. I use the half empty bottles they discard.
I buy inexpensive shampoo, just pick whatever fruit I'd like to smell like that week, but I spend the big bucks ($10 ish) on a good conditioner. I like Neutrogena's leave-in conditioner. Doesn't make sense to me to put on conditioner in the shower and rinse it out right away, and this works really well on my hair.
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I buy really good shampoo ($28... but the bottle lasts me for about 3 months), but I don't use conditioner. Because my hair is so short, conditioner isn't necessary, and my hair actually looks worse when I use it. I notice a HUGE difference between my shampoo and others - for one thing, the shampoo I use doesn't fade my colour AT ALL - even on the grey hairs that I've sprouted along my part. :P I also have very bizarrely textured hair (very fine strands, but TONNES of them) so the wrong shampoo can make me look like a q-tip.
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