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| Say Goodbye to the CIA Black Sites | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 23 2009, 11:44 PM (476 Views) | |
| QuirtEvans | Jan 23 2009, 11:44 PM Post #1 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/22/obama-close-terrorist-black-sites/ |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 23 2009, 11:56 PM Post #2 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Well good. I just hope the American people have the stomach for paying the price for true freedom and justice that is going to be required with these sort of moves. |
| The dogma lives loudly within me. | |
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| CTPianotech | Jan 24 2009, 03:58 AM Post #3 |
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Fulla-Carp
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It'd be interesting to know what will end up qualifying as a 'temporary' detention facility. ![]() |
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| Mikhailoh | Jan 24 2009, 04:49 AM Post #4 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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the devil is in the details, isn't it? |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jan 24 2009, 04:51 AM Post #5 |
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No, the devil is in Crawford, or somewhere else in Texas. Get with the program, please. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Mikhailoh | Jan 24 2009, 05:12 AM Post #6 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Stay tuned, Quirt. All this about face will have ramifications that could come into play later. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Axtremus | Jan 24 2009, 06:58 AM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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If we don't have the stomach for it, we don't deserve it. |
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| JBryan | Jan 24 2009, 07:05 AM Post #8 |
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I am the grey one
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These sites were in all probablity closed long ago and their residents transfered to Gitmo. Once they were exposed they became non-viable. A purely meaningless gesture on the part of Obama other than to assure our enemy that they will never have to see the inside of one of these sites. Pure grandstanding at the expense of our security. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Copper | Jan 24 2009, 07:06 AM Post #9 |
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Shortstop
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These black sites have been valuable national assets. The only reason to give away a valuable national asset is because you got something better. It will be fun in about 20 years to find out what it is. It has obviously been set up by Mr. Bush and coordinated with the new guys. Well done! |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Frank_W | Jan 24 2009, 07:34 AM Post #10 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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No. The Devil went down to Georgia. Jeez... Don't you guys know anything?
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jan 24 2009, 08:01 AM Post #11 |
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Awright, so he took a side trip to Georgia on his way to Texas. Geez, I wonder how much the Secret Service had to pay for THAT? |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Frank_W | Jan 24 2009, 08:12 AM Post #12 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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FWIW, I don't think Bush is/was the Devil, but it is funny.
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 24 2009, 11:44 AM Post #13 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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All that has been shown so far is that we don't have the stomach to do what is necessary to keep our sworn enemies from attacking us. If we can't even do what is basic to the survival of a nation, why should we be able to achieve more lofty and abstract goals such as "true freedom" and "justice"? |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 24 2009, 11:46 AM Post #14 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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I thought in your mythology Cheney was POFD. Now your telling us that it was Bush who was the mastermind all along? |
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| Renauda | Jan 24 2009, 12:07 PM Post #15 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Indeed there is great utility in maintaining offshore sites for the purpose of extraordinary interrogation and detention of suspected terrorists. Great utility. Glad to you see you also coming around to the reality of the end justifies the means (providing the end is justifiable). Looks good on you. |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 24 2009, 12:09 PM Post #16 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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It's not a utilitarian argument. it's a social commentary. |
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| Renauda | Jan 24 2009, 12:45 PM Post #17 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Oh I see, in this instance it's a social commentary. All the same though, offshore rendition sites for the purpose of extraordinary interrogation of suspected terrorists are of tremendous utility, n'est pas? |
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| John D'Oh | Jan 24 2009, 01:00 PM Post #18 |
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MAMIL
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From Wikipedia, regarding the British internment of IRA and other suspected terrorists in the 1970's:
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| Mark | Jan 24 2009, 01:15 PM Post #19 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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A good start. Now if we could just say goodbye to the CIA. |
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___.___ (_]===* o 0 When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells | |
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| jon-nyc | Jan 24 2009, 01:47 PM Post #20 |
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Cheers
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A meaningless gesture and a threat to our security? At the same time? Man, Obama's good. Even his empty gestures are consequential. |
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| The Devil Himself | Jan 24 2009, 01:50 PM Post #21 |
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Junior Carp
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No, really. I'm in the details. Trust me on this one. |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 24 2009, 01:59 PM Post #22 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Ask Al Gore. For him its a no brainer. |
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| JBryan | Jan 24 2009, 02:33 PM Post #23 |
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I am the grey one
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Announcing that he will be closing these sites down is obviously meaningless if these sites have already been closed down but announcing it to the world can have real consequences in terms of our security. That mess you constructed from what I said must be a joke, right? |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Renauda | Jan 24 2009, 02:46 PM Post #24 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Your utilitarian slip is showing...again. |
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| jon-nyc | Jan 24 2009, 03:07 PM Post #25 |
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Cheers
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Maybe I just misunderstood you - explain how what he did is a threat to security if the sites are already closed. Do you really think the mere existence of the sites is a deterrent to Islamist terrorists? |
| In my defense, I was left unsupervised. | |
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