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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 21 2009, 12:22 AM (1,059 Views) | |
| ivorythumper | Jan 21 2009, 12:22 AM Post #1 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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I think you're supposed to drop the screechy rhetoric about the "war on terror" now that Bush is out of office and your |
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| Phlebas | Jan 21 2009, 03:53 AM Post #2 |
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Bull-Carp
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So, if he hadn't said a word about terrorism, and how we are - or should - try to fight it, you would have complained that Obama wasn't going to do anything on that front. Too bad. The poor guy can't win. Maybe he might not be a bad president. I guess he'll never satisfy the idealogues, though. |
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Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D | |
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| John D'Oh | Jan 21 2009, 04:05 AM Post #3 |
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MAMIL
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I thought Obama was a leftist? More than a few people here implied the USA was about to descend into a socialist miasma to rival that of 1920's Russia. I was rather looking forward to the purges, truth be told. |
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| Mikhailoh | Jan 21 2009, 04:54 AM Post #4 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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That's not the point and you know it. The guy campaigned on 'change' and how badly we were doing, how he was going to do tis and do that and turn it all around. Now what we see is continuation of Bush's foreign policies. We'll see some differences, but they will be window dressing as opposed to substance. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jan 21 2009, 04:59 AM Post #5 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Talking to foreign leaders, and acting like their views matter, is not window dressing, it's substance. The rest of the world, even our allies in Iraq, thought |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Mikhailoh | Jan 21 2009, 05:02 AM Post #6 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Citation on that Cheney thing? I've not read that. Respecting our allies' viewpoints is not the same thing as being hamstrung because they don't agree. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jan 21 2009, 05:03 AM Post #7 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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It's all about perception. Their perception is that we stiffed them. And they have responded accordingly. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Mikhailoh | Jan 21 2009, 05:06 AM Post #8 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Yep. That's why they are listing to the right. Because they hate Bush so much. Almost as much as you. If UN resolutions are meaningless we should withdraw and shut down the NY facility, not to mention withdrawing financial support. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Pianolicious | Jan 21 2009, 05:14 AM Post #9 |
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Senior Carp
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He could have been talking about this thread. |
| Sit tibi vita longa et omnia bona!!! -- Dr. Spock | |
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| VPG | Jan 21 2009, 05:59 AM Post #10 |
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Pisa-Carp
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"If UN resolutions are meaningless we should withdraw and shut down the NY facility, not to mention withdrawing financial support. " By George, I think he's got it! That IS what we should do. |
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I'M NOT YELLING.........I'M ITALIAN...........THAT'S HOW WE TALK! "People say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look." Ronald Reagan, Inaugural, 1971 | |
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| Wim | Jan 21 2009, 06:01 AM Post #11 |
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Junior Carp
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Mikhailoh,
Some of the allies felt like being kicked in their balls for not sharing the same viewpoints. A bit less unilaterality would have been appreciated. Wim |
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| JBryan | Jan 21 2009, 06:06 AM Post #12 |
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I am the grey one
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Sure, that's why we spent 14 months farting around with the UN before we finally invaded Iraq. Because we are uniliateral about everything. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Wim | Jan 21 2009, 06:12 AM Post #13 |
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Junior Carp
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Jbryan
Well, if you say so... Wim |
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| Phlebas | Jan 21 2009, 06:14 AM Post #14 |
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Bull-Carp
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"The Daily Show," Aug 15, 2007.
When you do diplomacy, you probably have to be diplomatic. "You're with us, or you're against us" didn't win many countries over to us. |
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Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D | |
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| JBryan | Jan 21 2009, 06:16 AM Post #15 |
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I am the grey one
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That is because they were against us. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Wim | Jan 21 2009, 06:18 AM Post #16 |
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Junior Carp
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Then they weren't your allies . Wim |
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| Phlebas | Jan 21 2009, 06:18 AM Post #17 |
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Bull-Carp
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Obama believes terrorism is bad, Israel deserves the right to exist, countries like N. Korea and Iran shouldn't have nuclear weapons. Wow, no change. What a Bush clone. I'm so disapointed it's just business as usual. |
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Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D | |
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| JBryan | Jan 21 2009, 06:21 AM Post #18 |
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I am the grey one
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Yes, we found that out. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Wim | Jan 21 2009, 06:23 AM Post #19 |
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Junior Carp
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So, what's next : a complete remake of NATO and other alliances or what ? Wim |
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| Improviso | Jan 21 2009, 06:25 AM Post #20 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Something to consider the next time Europe needs help fending off a totalitarian regime. |
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Identifying narcissists isn't difficult. Just look for the person who is constantly fishing for compliments and admiration while breaking down over even the slightest bit of criticism. We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. | |
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| JBryan | Jan 21 2009, 06:27 AM Post #21 |
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I am the grey one
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What really is the purpose of NATO other than to defend Europe from an enemy that no longer exists at US taxpayer expense. Perhaps it is time the Europeans spent more of their own money on their own defense. Our NATO "allies" sure haven't been a whole lot of help in Afghanistan with a few notable exceptions. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Renauda | Jan 21 2009, 06:36 AM Post #22 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Perhaps, being that the august Bush Administration |
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| John D'Oh | Jan 21 2009, 08:22 AM Post #23 |
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MAMIL
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Next time, could you perhaps be a little quicker? The British joined your silly Iraqi adventure immediately - WW1 didn't start for you chaps until 1917, and it took a 'He sunk my Battleship' moment before you joined in the fun the second time around, long after the brave boys of the RAF had deflected Adolf from trying to invade civilization and pointed him to points East. Not that we're ungrateful or anything. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| RosemaryTwo | Jan 21 2009, 08:24 AM Post #24 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Posted in another thread, but this is an interesting quote from Peggy Noonan: Obama named in stark terms America's essential foe: "For those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror . . . we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you." This had the authentic sound of a man who's been getting daily raw intelligence briefings and is not amused. |
| "Perhaps the thing to do is just to let stupid run its course." Aqua | |
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| Improviso | Jan 21 2009, 08:27 AM Post #25 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It takes time to get all those antiwar folks in a box and close the lid. Some things never change. |
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Identifying narcissists isn't difficult. Just look for the person who is constantly fishing for compliments and admiration while breaking down over even the slightest bit of criticism. We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. | |
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