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1st Day: You stay classy, Mr. President
Topic Started: Jan 20 2009, 04:51 PM (452 Views)
George K
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/additional/
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Katrina

President Obama will keep the broken promises made by President Bush to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. He and Vice President Biden will take steps to ensure that the federal government will never again allow such catastrophic failures in emergency planning and response to occur.

President Obama swiftly responded to Hurricane Katrina. Citing the Bush Administration's "unconscionable ineptitude" in responding to Hurricane Katrina, then-Senator Obama introduced legislation requiring disaster planners to take into account the specific needs of low-income hurricane victims. Obama visited thousands of Hurricane survivors in the Houston Convention Center and later took three more trips to the region. He worked with members of the Congressional Black Caucus to introduce legislation to address the immediate income, employment, business, and housing needs of Gulf Coast communities.

President Barack Obama will partner with the people of the Gulf Coast to rebuild now, stronger than ever.


Has any other President been so openly critical of his predecessor?

I don't know.
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Hmmm...still sounds like campaign mode. In any case, this kind of drivel is written by lower level staffers. I suppose Rahm didn't proof it very well.
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Refreshing honesty.

Change you can believe in.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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More seriously, you know full well that Obama ran against Bush, not against McCain. He didn't run on a platform of doing exactly what Bush did, only better. He ran on a platform of change. It's awfully hard to blame him for highlighting the changes. And if Bush had been doing the right thing competently, there'd be no reason to change direction.

The style is just marketing. Bush is very, very unpopular. He's a millstone around your collective neck. Obama's just building political capital.
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I don't disagree that Bush is unpopular. Can anyone remember another President slamming his predecessor that way (Jimmy Carter doesn't count)?
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George K
Jan 20 2009, 05:04 PM
I don't disagree that Bush is unpopular. Can anyone remember another President slamming his predecessor that way (Jimmy Carter doesn't count)?
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John D'Oh
Jan 20 2009, 05:06 PM
George K
Jan 20 2009, 05:04 PM
I don't disagree that Bush is unpopular. Can anyone remember another President slamming his predecessor that way (Jimmy Carter doesn't count)?
George Washington. No class at all.
Nice linkage (and subtle) to that other thread, D'Oh. Well done!
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George K
Jan 20 2009, 05:04 PM
I don't disagree that Bush is unpopular. Can anyone remember another President slamming his predecessor that way (Jimmy Carter doesn't count)?
It would have to be a party change, right?

So here are the possibilities, in our lifetimes ...

Eisenhower to Kennedy

Johnson to Nixon

Ford to Carter

Carter to Reagan

Bush to Clinton

Clinton to Bush

Offhand, I'd guess that Nixon wasn't particularly complimentary to Johnson. And Reagan wasn't particularly complimentary to Carter. (Sorry, Carter DOES count.)
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George K
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So, what did Kennedy say about Eisenhouer (AFTER he was inaugurated)? How did Nixon criticize Johnson (AFTER he was inaugurated)? How did Bush blast Clinton (AFTER he was inaugurated)?

IIRC, all of them were, at worst, silent.

I mention Carter because I can recall him criticizing Bush II. Other than that, I can't recall.

Can you?
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I've never seen anything like this. There's no excuse for it, especially after the gracious transition. No excuse, and it bodes badly for the character of the new administration.
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George K
Jan 20 2009, 05:19 PM
So, what did Kennedy say about Eisenhouer (AFTER he was inaugurated)? How did Nixon criticize Johnson (AFTER he was inaugurated)? How did Bush blast Clinton (AFTER he was inaugurated)?

IIRC, all of them were, at worst, silent.

I mention Carter because I can recall him criticizing Bush II. Other than that, I can't recall.

Can you?
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Upon ascending to the presidency in January 1969, Richard Nixon commented that he had inherited a war not of his making from his predecessor, Lyndon B. Johnson.


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb6387/is_/ai_n25554277

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President Richard Nixon's 1970 message on education reform signaled the beginning of a shift away from former president Lyndon Johnson's faith in education as a cornerstone of a Great Society. Nixon criticized some of Johnson's most highly touted compensatory education programs such as Head Start and Upward Bound. These programs, conceived to help impoverished students catch up with their middle-class peers, had made impressive gains, but testing showed those gains did not always last. President Nixon pleaded for further research into what really might work to help pull poor children up out of poverty. "We must stop congratulating ourselves for spending nearly as much money on education as does the rest of the world combined . . .


http://www.enotes.com/1970-education-american-decades/politics-funding-during-nixon-carter-years

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Jan 20 2009, 05:06 PM
George K
Jan 20 2009, 05:04 PM
I don't disagree that Bush is unpopular. Can anyone remember another President slamming his predecessor that way (Jimmy Carter doesn't count)?
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Upon ascending to the presidency in January 1969, Richard Nixon commented that he had inherited a war not of his making from his predecessor, Lyndon B. Johnson.


That rhetoric is just a bit different from calling Johnson on "broken promises", no?

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Nixon criticized some of Johnson's most highly touted compensatory education programs such as Head Start and Upward Bound.


Same comment.

But, I suppose one can find snark where one wants: just look at D'Oh's comment. :sword:
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Jan 20 2009, 05:30 PM
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Upon ascending to the presidency in January 1969, Richard Nixon commented that he had inherited a war not of his making from his predecessor, Lyndon B. Johnson.


That rhetoric is just a bit different from calling Johnson on "broken promises", no?

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Nixon criticized some of Johnson's most highly touted compensatory education programs such as Head Start and Upward Bound.


Same comment.

But, I suppose one can find snark where one wants: just look at D'Oh's comment. :sword:
Give me a break. I'm doing two minutes of Googling on events that are almost forty years old. Quotes are hard to come by.
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I suspect that public excoriation of presidential predecessors is going to be exceptionally hard to find, and nonexistent on Inauguration Day.

Until now.
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Jan 20 2009, 04:51 PM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/additional/
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Katrina

President Obama will keep the broken promises made by President Bush to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. He and Vice President Biden will take steps to ensure that the federal government will never again allow such catastrophic failures in emergency planning and response to occur.

President Obama swiftly responded to Hurricane Katrina. Citing the Bush Administration's "unconscionable ineptitude" in responding to Hurricane Katrina, then-Senator Obama introduced legislation requiring disaster planners to take into account the specific needs of low-income hurricane victims. Obama visited thousands of Hurricane survivors in the Houston Convention Center and later took three more trips to the region. He worked with members of the Congressional Black Caucus to introduce legislation to address the immediate income, employment, business, and housing needs of Gulf Coast communities.

President Barack Obama will partner with the people of the Gulf Coast to rebuild now, stronger than ever.


Has any other President been so openly critical of his predecessor?

I don't know.
Has any president in your lifetime screwed up so badly on a national catastrophe?
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Mikhailoh
Jan 20 2009, 05:49 PM
I suspect that public excoriation of presidential predecessors is going to be exceptionally hard to find, and nonexistent on Inauguration Day.

Until now.
I guess that's what happens when you're the worst President in history. You set all kinds of records.
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I would suggest everyone take a deep breath and give Obama a few days at least to chart his course.

Anyone dying to find something to criticize will always find it with any President. As I recall, I gave W the benefit of the doubt for about two years and at times during that period was something of a supporter..

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Is that the precedent you want set? The standard for presidential behavior?

Be careful what you wish for.
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I would suggest everyone take a deep breath and give Obama a few days at least to chart his course.

Anyone dying to find something to criticize will always find it with any President. As I recall, I gave W the benefit of the doubt for about two years and at times during that period was something of a supporter..

jf

Much to my chagrin. :veryangry:
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Jan 20 2009, 06:15 PM
I would suggest everyone take a deep breath and give Obama a few days at least to chart his course.

Anyone dying to find something to criticize will always find it with any President. As I recall, I gave W the benefit of the doubt for about two years and at times during that period was something of a supporter..

jf
What you did or did not do doesn't make a damn bit of difference. We're talking about the behavior of a new president. I have seen two stupid, classless public statements before the sun set on his first day. I've been willing to give him the benefot of teh doubt and my support as well. But not for these things.
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Jan 20 2009, 04:51 PM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/additional/
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Katrina
President Barack Obama will partner with the people of the Gulf Coast to rebuild now, stronger than ever.


Has any other President been so openly critical of his predecessor?

I don't know.

I hope someone fills this guy in that the Gulf Coast will get many more hurricanes.

Rebuilding it is foolish.

Build a monument and abandon the place.

There is no reason for the taxpayers to foot the bill for the mess.
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Did hell just freeze over?

I agree with Copper! :D
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