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| The Pardon Derby | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 14 2009, 05:17 AM (365 Views) | |
| QuirtEvans | Jan 14 2009, 05:17 AM Post #1 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Any bets on who will get a last-minute pardon? You can bet that no one will. I'll take Roger Clemens. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jan 14 2009, 05:19 AM Post #2 |
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Oh, and Scooter should be a given, I'd think. I doubt he'll pardon Cheney, though. If I had to guess, I'd guess there have been discussions with the Obama team, and a deal has been cut ... no pardon for Cheney, but no prosecution either. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| JBryan | Jan 14 2009, 05:23 AM Post #3 |
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I am the grey one
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Prosecution for what? |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Mikhailoh | Jan 14 2009, 05:33 AM Post #4 |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jan 14 2009, 05:33 AM Post #5 |
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Conspiracy to commit torture. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jan 14 2009, 05:35 AM Post #6 |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090111/pl_afp/usattackspoliticsbushobama_newsmlmmd |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| JBryan | Jan 14 2009, 05:36 AM Post #7 |
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I am the grey one
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Put down the crack pipe. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jan 14 2009, 05:51 AM Post #8 |
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I didn't say it was going to happen. I said that it's a possibility, and it's certainly something people ... people who will have positions in the White House and the Department of Justice ... are talking about. Personally, I think they're fairly well-insulated by the BS opinions of counsel they got from lackeys at the DoJ. I think the opinions were wrong, but in these sorts of cases you rarely get indicted if you relied on advice of counsel. But for you to say it's fantasy? It shows that your grip on reality is becoming untethered. If the President-elect is talking about the possibility, it's not fantasy. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| JBryan | Jan 14 2009, 06:06 AM Post #9 |
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I am the grey one
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The president-elect has talked about a lot of other things in the past that turned out to be just that. Fantasy. There is no chance in hell that Dick Cheney will be, nor should he be, prosecuted for anything. If he is it will not be me who has become untethered from reality. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| George K | Jan 14 2009, 06:10 AM Post #10 |
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Finally
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Is there US statute prohibiting "torture?" Is there, in that statute, a definition of what "torture" is? Not, what Obama says "in my view." His view doesn't matter. It's the view of the law. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| VPG | Jan 14 2009, 06:55 AM Post #11 |
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Pisa-Carp
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I wonder if we can prosecute Sarah Palin? She 's about as guilty as Cheney. |
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I'M NOT YELLING.........I'M ITALIAN...........THAT'S HOW WE TALK! "People say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look." Ronald Reagan, Inaugural, 1971 | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jan 14 2009, 07:57 AM Post #12 |
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You guys will have a stronger case that it's much ado about nothing if Bush issues no pardons next week, relating to interrogation tactics. If he does issue any pardons relating to interrogations, you guys are going to look Personally, I don't think he will, but I understand that there are a few people who'd really like him to. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| JBryan | Jan 14 2009, 08:07 AM Post #13 |
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I am the grey one
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I don't think his issuing pardons would mean much either given all the damn fools in Congress who want to pursue these matters. It would merely be a prophylactic move just in case of the off chance that something got going. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Kincaid | Jan 14 2009, 08:40 AM Post #14 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I don't know enough about who is in the running for a pardon, but I will bet that that Libby will not get a pardon. He's already in the clear and a pardon now would be tantamount to admitting he should have pardoned him fully way back when (which I think he should have done). You know who I wish would get a pardon? Bill Clinton for perjury and Hillary Clinton for obstruction of justice. That'd be a hoot! |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 14 2009, 09:45 AM Post #15 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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That would be rich!
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| Kincaid | Jan 14 2009, 10:18 AM Post #16 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Wonder if Blagojevich is putting out any feelers? |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| Kincaid | Jan 14 2009, 10:20 AM Post #17 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Not far off the mark, really. |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| Mikhailoh | Jan 14 2009, 10:23 AM Post #18 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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There were some pro-prosecution nutjobs on Diane Reems this morning. Crazy. Why on earth would the new administration want to go backward acrimoniously, with the tasks that face it going forward? Anyone who wants to pursue this should be impeached. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Kincaid | Jan 14 2009, 10:51 AM Post #19 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Trying to prosecute Cheney, or especially Bush, would be the quickest prescription I've heard yet to deliver a Republican majority in congress in 2010. Only the nutters want this. |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 14 2009, 10:55 AM Post #20 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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I'm just the straight man here.
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| jon-nyc | Jan 14 2009, 11:01 AM Post #21 |
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Cheers
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What Kincaid said. |
| In my defense, I was left unsupervised. | |
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| Kincaid | Jan 20 2009, 01:57 PM Post #22 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Wow - just the two commutations. http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/01/20/bush-pardon-party-goes-out-with-a-whimper/ From the article:
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| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 20 2009, 02:08 PM Post #23 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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"out with a whimper" damned if you do and damned if you don't. |
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| QuirtEvans | Jan 20 2009, 02:20 PM Post #24 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Gotta give Bush credit on this one. I think he handled the exit, and his use of the pardon power, well. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| brenda | Jan 20 2009, 03:47 PM Post #25 |
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Aliens have taken our Quirt!! Bring back the real Quirt!! |
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“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.” ~A.A. Milne | |
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